To those of you who are wearing masks in public.

They need to be at least triple layer, and of a densely woven fabric. Old 'thousand thread count' bed sheets are a very good option.

 

$200 is nothing, though. I mean for such an important piece of kit.

 

So don't go to crowded places.

 

You can't reduce public transportation, but still allow people to travel freely. It has to COINCIDE with shutdown, else you end up with just such crowds. Even a child would know not to do that.

 

Absolutely not true. Cuomo doesn't control the subways and they were reduced because of lower ridership

 

And there it is again

Trumpers saying "**** em they are old and gonna die anyway"

 

But an N100 ventilator with HEPA filters...



... does stop 99.9% of SARS-CoV-2. Why isn't this guy...


... making sure this country produces enough good PPE so every American has what he or she needs?

 

It's not influenza. Why the hell are you spreading misinformation?

As for old folks dying ... it's killed a lot of old folks in skilled nursing facilities because we set up crappy warehouses for people who rely on government. My father lasted four years in a quality nursing home and it's no surprise that facility hasn't had a COVID-19 case. Why not? Because they have the means to look after residents and the incentive to keep the virus out. Once again, everyday folks are the ones who end up dying in substandard care.

The reason we should get the number of COVID-19 cases down is to protect the everyday folks who don't work from home. We also protect their jobs because people aren't out shopping when the pandemic is raging.


My wife and I chose to ride out the pandemic in British Columbia (instead of Oregon) because the government acted quickly to keep the virus down. They never locked the province down, but they did close businesses likely to spread the virus. We have always been free to move about. Now, businesses are reopening and people are coming out.



We can do better if we start caring about everyone, not just better off folks.

 

But what?
Bandanas work just fine. I have no problem about it.

 

Multiple studies have debunked the notion that these are people who were about to die. One study found that the average loss of life is 11-13 years.

 

Studies documented by CDC show that bandannas stop very little going either in or out.

Different fabrics have different ability to stop the miniscule water droplets of speech, breathing, etc. that the mask is meant to stop. Viruses are microscopic and come along for the ride on any sized water droplet.

 

What a self righteous load of crap.

 

Not from data I read.
Many cloth type masks let thru 97% of the virus.
Bandanas, 99% of more.
Surgical masks, 50%.
N95, 5% or less.

 

...what? It's the truth.

Masks do very little to keep you from getting infected, but they do a great deal to prevent any infection that you might have from spreading to others.

 

I have been a Public Health Nurse for nearly 15 years. In that time I have been exposed to, and treated, thousands of contagious patients long before COVID-19.

Assuming that I am infected, and utilizing PPE to prevent cross contamination, has been, and always will be, the most important component of applying PPE to a real world scenario.

Not once have I ever been cross infected due to my adherence to proper PPE guidelines when dealing with infectious agents.

The only "load of crap" is the one you crap into your pants.

 

Who do you care about--just better off folks? Only the federal government can make sure enough PPE is made quickly. Do you need someone to explain why?

Don't you think Trump should skip playing golf, do less grandstanding on tv and tweeting, and get about using the Defense Production Act to produce the needed equipment. Why isn't this guy taking care of average folks? Why shouldn't frontline workers have effective PPE?

Guess who lost their job and health insurance? Trump can't give many or most of them their job back as people aren't going to a restaurant or the mall because they're afraid of catching the virus. Besides, many have either lost their job or afraid they might. What we can and should do is keep small business alive with enough money they can keep their staff, pay on debts, and mothball their operation. People will still have a job. Business can then prepare to compete for when we get to a point in the future where we have a cure, effective treatment, or a vaccine--or not, and then decide how we can live with the virus. We don't know how sick the virus is making people, or how long immunity lasts. Letting people get the virus in the hope immunity will eventually snuff it out may not a good idea if turns out you can catch it again next year.

Why not spend the money to mothball some businesses for a few months while we look for a cure or vaccine? Maybe we can come up with effective treatments. If we get a vaccine, we might want our old lives back.

Trump can make people desperate for a job, but he can't make them visit the mall, dine out, or travel?

 

We'll know you by how you act.

 

It is not an obstructed airway. You can't obstruct with something that can pass far more air than is necessary. And it isn't the rest of your life. Don't be so overly dramatic.

ob·struc·tion
/əbˈstrəkSH(ə)n,äbˈstrəkSH(ə)n/
noun: obstruction

1. the action of obstructing or the state of being obstructed.
   "walkers could proceed with the minimum of obstruction"
   • a thing that impedes or prevents passage or progress; an obstacle or blockage.

 

Have you tried walking into a bank with a mask on?

 

Trump, however, is far worse. He's wrecking the economy at the same time his policies have killed tens of thousands of Americans.

 

I don't know why we aren't thinking of PPE as a tool in cutting transmission if we can't bring ourselves to care what happens to supermarket clerks.

 

If you cared about supermarket clerks you wouldn’t go to the supermarket.

 

Exactly. They use the same logic for not giving poor people, under privileged and especially, non citizens including illegals any basic healthcare. Sure, let’s have hundreds of illegals we use to pick our fruits and veggies and work in Trumps golf courses, all infected with the virus. They are generally healthier to begin with, so really, all they will do is keep reinfecting citizens every year. Their so called logic lacks reality.

 

For sure. . It starts with the people in charge at the highest level who can’t govern. We’re left in our own. They pride themselves on being inept. As long as they can keep their guns, they can ward off the virus. Really, we should all have access to the best covering, not just home made stuff.

 

Not only that, but the 6 foot distance is not a panacea when air conditioning can circulate this infected air all through a smaller store.