To those of you who are wearing masks in public.

So you're not wearing N100 masks wherever you go?

 

Two reasons you are incorrect. First, if there was no risk, you would not wear a mask and you would not stand 10 feet away while they put food in your trunk. Second, the simple fact you are needing groceries at all makes them essential workers. You could have planned ahead so they didn’t have to be in public and at risk.

You will never convince me now of your expertise in economics. You clearly don’t understand derivatives, you didn’t understand consequences positive and negative of mark to market accounting, and you didn’t know who was politically responsible for the 2008 recession. I’m sorry to keep bringing that up, but you keep claiming expertise.

How did they determine who got quarantined? I thought anyone crossing the border got 14 days mandatory?

That’s the difference between you and I. You only care about one party destroying things. I am averse to it from any party.

Depends on the area. Just like with mitigation efforts, things must be done that make sense locally. They certainly are prepared here.

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That’s just a dog chasing it’s own tail. Low cases, perceived safety, more activity, more cases, fear, back to square one. In your opinion what level of new cases makes people feel safe? Are cases more important to people’s emotions than death rates?

So you are someone with the resources to have been better prepared to not put others at risk. And you admit Trump’s comments have a profound effect on your life. I’m glad I don’t have to concern myself to such an extent with things politicians say. I can’t imagine living life like that.

That’s fair. It was a good joke.

No I said—
“I have no need/use for masks, sanitizers, or respirators.”

I apologize. I forget most people here don’t really pay attention to what others say. I’ve been very open on the forum about what I do and I’ve even discussed it with you before.

 

Your Trumper birds-of-a-feather would laugh at you if you wear a mask and you can't have that.

Stores want customers and you'll no doubt find you're going to be told increasingly to put a mask on or leave the premises. Your choice...



You might read the YouTube comments. Most of the people side with Costco.

 

Nope. I'd bet plenty I could have N100 respirators by supper if I really wanted them, but why would I in BC?

 

Now, apply the same logic to...

 

An N100 mask with HEPA filters, especially one like this...


... is effective.

You're not telling me anything because I know you're wrong. What you are doing is spreading misinformation. Why would you mislead people?

 

The opinions of "Trumpers" are irrelevant in this discussion.

... so they wish to alienate a handful of their potential customers due to this whole "mask" nonsense?

I will not shop there. I will go to a neighboring conservative-run county to do my shopping then...

Appeal to Popularity Fallacy.

Also, the people around the world who bothered to comment on that video does not equal "all USA citizens".

 

Looks like it's spreading around super rapidly. Everyone around you is sick with COVID-19... Don't you want to protect yourself?!?!?!?! Aren't you scared that you might get it??

 

No, it's not. It won't stop a virus. YOU are the one spreading misinformation.

 

You would think by now you would have some inkling that SARS and MERS are not SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19. LOL. Next you will be saying C-19 is the flu.

I didn’t estimate anyone by where they live. I just stated a fact. I’m sure there is quite a bit of correlation between where one lives and their risk tolerances, but it isn’t a causal relationship.

Nope. The fact you just used the word quote is concession on your part. I’ve pointed out unequivocally you could have done much more to protect others. You did only what you wanted to do. What was inconvenient or distasteful you did not do.

There you go again. Disturbing.

Tell him.

Educate myself? My paternal grandfather was actively farming then. My uncle on my mother’s side wouldn’t wash a dish or utensil without cleaning every edible morsel of food off of it and consuming it because it made such an impression on him. Nobody in my family is wasteful, but he drove us all nuts scraping pots and pans etc. You can hope all you want. I observe reality and plan and act proactively. Something you might want to think about is if farmers go broke I will still eat like a king. You will be hungry.

 

Yes, I’m intelligent enough to not live in any of the places pictured. That drama doesn’t exist here.

Yes, Cuomo caused a lot of death. He should have recused himself.

 

You’ve yet to quote him or give an example of Fauci going from one extreme or another.

 

It's hard to believe anyone would advance an argument so absurd. I stand back as a courtesy. As for planning ahead ... I did. It's not reasonable for folks to "plan ahead" by cleaning off the shelves when people are

Uh oh. We're back to the same BS you made up before. Frankly, you don't have a clue about many of the issues about mark to market accounting. Derivatives need regulating, not abolishing, as I told you before.

Now they do, but not when I went across in early March.

Of course, I care because I've been critical of Democrats saying benefits should go to workers, not business.

People don't want to get sick, either, so death stats are only a factor, and many people are afraid of getting sick because they can't afford time off.

Who says choosing British Columbia over Oregon is a "profound" matter? I'm not surprised a typical American might not understand. We figured out Canada would eventually close the border (it happened sooner than we thought) and we would be pretty much forced to choose one side or the other. No, they can't stop citizens from entering the country (born in California, naturalized as an adult in Canada), but I think they would take a real dim view of someone going back and forth. Besides, I'd have to quarantine for two weeks every time I entered Canada.

One thing you don't want to do is piss off border guards. I have a Nexus Pass, so it's not me. I got a smile out of a Canadian guard a few years ago when I was registering some items I carry back and forth when this mouthy guy turned to me for "help" when he was being questioned and I said the best help I could give him was to advise him to stop acting up.

 

You didn't answer the question being "So doing nothing would have resulted in less deaths in NY according to you?"

 

Recused himself from doing what ? Believing the federal government and Trump ? This is one big fault democrats always had. They try to work with and compromise with a Party that is perpetually wrong on so many issues, from economics to AGW to gun control to handling pandemics......

 

Why are you spreading misinformation

We have shown you are wrong

 

Trump owns his actions. Cuomo owns his. I’m thankful neither affect me directly in this instance.

 

It is misinformation

 

Here ya go lefty....https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...ng_himself_about_severity_of_coronavirus.html

 

No you haven't. You've just shown that you don't know what the specs of a mask are vs the specs of a virus.

 

Yes, what you are spreading IS misinformation.

 

Doing nothing and Cuomo doing nothing are entirely different things. I’ve never advocated for “doing nothing”. I was quite clear about that. If Cuomo had done nothing more intelligent people could have stepped in with much better results. Quoting me incorrectly violates forum rules and eroded what is left of your credibility.

 

One example of Cuomo’s failures was his willingness to give in to pressure from the SEIU to not close schools. Even de Blasio came to his senses before Cuomo.

Cuomo is responsible for his failures. Trump is not responsible for Cuomo. You may not like the concept of Federalism but your feelings are not relevant.

Can you provide any evidence Cuomo’s failures can be attributed to anyone but Cuomo? And before you start parroting Cuomo’s excuse do your research. I’m weary of having to educate people today.

 

"He should have done nothing".

You have blamed him for the large number of deaths without anything to back it up. Asking for more ventilators did not lead to more deaths. So what should have been done, saying leave it to others is not an answer

 

Exactly, who did close schools ? And both de Blasio and Cuomo came to their senses long before Trump and other republicans. You guys are preaching against masks and SD now. Who are the fools now ?

Trump disregarded the intel that neither DeBasio or Cuomo got.

Trump and Republicans still live in a dream world.