Reparations for Slavery.

"Whitey" freed the slaves, then proceeded to force them into second class citizenship complete with lynchings, raping, bombing etc.
It would've been nice if African-Americans had been freed from slavery and given full citizenship.

 

Reparations will be declared tomorrow (for the sake of this argument). Who gets 'em?

BE SPECIFIC

 

Right, so not only will eugenics be involved, but you'll also discriminate against those without papers?

You're sounding like a slave master.

 

Oh please. Read your Roman history, just for starters. Then Chinese, etc etc etc.

 

This is complete nonsense. You evidently know nothing of world history.

 

Sure. Just like it would have been nice for all those other groups enslaved by NON-WHITES in other parts of the world.

Would have been nice if they had microwave ovens in the 18thC, too.

 

How was the Atlantic slave trade more brutal than the Arab slave trade? Remember, castration and sexual slavery wasn't a feature of the Atlantic slave trade, but both were a widespread practice in the Arab slave trade. "Concubines", "harems", "castration" and "eunuchs" are not terms that can be associated with the Atlantic slave trade, but they were all central features of the Arab slave trade. The Arab slave trade also lasted far longer, and involved more enslaved Africans than the Atlantic slave trade.

After the Atlantic slave trade was abolished by white Europeans and Americans, what do you think happened in Africa? Do you think slavery ceased on the continent, and the Africans breathed a sigh of relief? No, that's not what happened. What happened was the massive African slavery enterprise just shifted to the East, and the Arab slave trade grew that much larger.

And guess when the slave trade enterprise finally ended in Africa, and guess who ended it.

I ask again, in case you missed it the first time-

How was slavery practiced by white folk any more brutal than slavery practiced by Islamic folks?

 

Whitey freed the slaves though. No other civilization or society in the entire history of the human race had ever done that before.

While complaining that whitey freeing the slaves didn't result in instantaneous and magical racial equality and harmony, try not to miss the big, amazing unprecedented in human history point...

WHITEY FREED THE SLAVES.

 

I'll offer this, in case anyone is under the impression that whitey invented slavery. This big rock is called the Code of Hummurabi. It's in the Louvre in Paris if you'd like a take a gander at it with your own eyes.



It's got writing on it.

It was made about two thousand years before Jesus was born, and it came from Mesopotamia (modern day Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Turkey)

It's like a big list of laws, and it's where the concept of "an eye for and eye" came from.

Yup, it's chock full of laws about slavery, and it discusses slavery as the deeply-ingrained institution and enterprise it was in ancient Babylonian society.

It was written by people who had most-likely never laid eyes on a Caucasian, and they had very little understanding that there were parts of the world where big tribes of white people lived.

Whitey freed the slaves, and he certainly didn't invent them.

 

see post #530 for the answer

 

thats because no other race of ppl apart from whites, ever practiced race based slavery in the form of chattel slavery, duh.

 

idk but only whites ever practiced race based slavery in the form of chattel slavery

 

nonsense. You evidently know nothing of world history.

 

idk?

So your answer is "I don't know"?

Yeah, exactly.

Thank you for proving my point.

 

yes you made a grate point but its irrelevant to my point.

 

Your point is irrelevant, because it's false.

There absolutely was a racial aspect to the Arab slave trade, and the notion that the Arab slave trade was somehow more noble and/or less brutal, than the Atlantic slave trade because it wasn't "race based" is absurd.

You don't even need to crack open a history book to see how wrong your point is, just look at the headlines under "current events", because there's still a racial aspect to the Arab slave trade TODAY.

 

there was no racial exclusivity to the arab slave trade since they enslaved thousands of whites in spain ans even as far north as scandanavia and eastern europe, the barbary raids aswell as raids in central africa. the whites however explicitly had it in their constitution. ALL NEGRO SLAVES ARE PROPERTY OF THE SLAVE MASTER AND SHALL BE KILLED IF THEY RESIST. that was the law in america.

 

mining the internet for examples of arab slavery DOES NOT in any way shape or form determine whether or not reparations are due to so called african americans. your whole point is a strawman designed to deflect from the discussion at hand because you know too well that the White Christian and Jewish europeans exclusively enslaved so called negros, native americans and hispanics.

 

isnt it quite ironic or rather "contradictory" or even outright deception for jewish folk to celebrating passover [the israelites exodus from slavery] while their thousands of slaves were chained up in their backyards?

ive got primary resources to show you this exact occurrence taking place in the Caribbean, a little known, hidden aspect of american history ONLY NOW coming to the surface..due to once undisclosed slavery databases being accessible to the public within the last few years.

 

Oh my.

If I'd seen this 5 years ago, I'd have told you this isn't who Obama is, the 2 million dollar thing's never-gonna-happenness notwithstanding...

 

Oh well. So, why did you mention economic reparations in the other thread?

 

The price of a slave doesn't take the subsequent economic value of his/her labor (including the product of a female slave's birth labor) into account; that would be MUCH greater.

Oh - and maybe start a new thread on this topic?

The 2 million dollar thing is never going to happen, so a more general topic on how to implement with minimal blowback might be better.

 

It's an important issue.

But 2 million a pop is a non-starter as you must know.

 

So the Arab slave trade was somehow more moral, and not as barbaric, because diversity was its strength?

What do you think the penalty was for a slave who resisted the Arab slave trade? A frownie face in their sticker book?

Slaves in the Arab slave trade were absolutely the property of their owners too. It wasn't just written in Arab laws, it was written in their holy book, the Koran. The prophet Muhammad even wrote some of those laws himself, and he owned plenty of slaves.

 

Reparations?

White man has bigger weapons and more folks.