George Floyd autopsy report surprise!

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  1. Moolk

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    These posts aren’t misleading at all, you are purposely creating strawmen.
     
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    No one has claimed skin color is the reason. That is your straw man.
     
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    FFS. The problem is that have video evidence of the crime that is clear as the nose on your face, yet they walk away. Eric Garner was strangled in a public street until he was dead by Police, and not one person was adjudicated for that crime. Rodney King was mercilessly beaten by multiple police officers, and they all walked away. Now you have George Floyd, and the community is asking why is this still allowed to happen. They have seen time and time again where the officers who kill these people walk away with little or no punishment. Hell Colin Kaepernick tried (in vein) to shed light on the subject, and instead if discussing the issue, the right made it about "patriotism".

    You want to think that this is only black people protesting, and that its about the person being black, when in reality this is a societal issue that everyone should be addressing. You missed the part where those protesting in most cities are not only black people. Most people are trying to address the issue, but the right in thsi country refuses o even admit the issue, let alone discuss it. Its all about changing the subject for them, ala Colin Kaepernick.

    The real problem is people like you yabber. You refuse to admit the real problem, therefore there is no problem right ?
     
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    Or were the held on the ground and choked to death by 5 officers ?
     
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    That the police have too much power, with no accountability
     
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    Unlike you, I don't care about the "reasons" or the "skin color" of a murderer.

    If they're a criminal, you lock them the **** up regardless of any other factor.

    Perhaps the major factor is a culture that glamorizes thuggery.
     
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    We haven’t healed because of the msm lies and deception. It’s fanning of hyperpartisanship and creation of false narratives built from anecdotes. It’s selective outrage.[/QUOTE]

    Listen to the words of Dr King, since you weren't around when he said them.

    “Certain conditions continue to exist in our society, which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention”- Dr. Martin Luther King
     
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    Says the people who can't name a single person of the 19 murdered in Chicago over the weekend.
     
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    You need statistics about who does what instead of watching your 4chan site painting a picture that you like to see.
    And I sourced that racism in the US is still institutionalized. It's thoroughly engraved in the US society.
    No youtube is going to put a dent in how the US justice system is behaving.
     
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    Yes it's called believing in freedom, justice, equality and democracy, you should try it.
     
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    None of these conditions apply to this case, this is manslaughter at worst.
     
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    No. They weren’t. Just like Brown didn’t get shot with his hands up standing still.

    And people choked to death actually die from being choked right there on the scene. I’ve been choked out and lost consciousness a couple times in Jujitsu. It happens instantly.
     
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    You don't know that, only the officer involved does.
     
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    That's a real game changer, it instantly exonerates the other 3 officers if the 4th was using a recommended technique and makes manslaughter the only thing he can be charged with.
     
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    But they didn't use deadly force, they restrained him and his underlying bad health and 'intoxication' (cocaine?) killed him.
     
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    Au contraire, they are under more scrutiny and held to a higher standard than they ever were.
     
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    They tried putting him in the patrol car. There's another video of it. Officers from both doors on each side of the car were laboring to get him completely in, but he was going nuts. The whole car was rocking back and forth.They couldn't do it. So they hauled him out and he either fell or was put down on his stomach where they restrained him until he calmed down. Unfortunately he died, probably from heart failure because of heart disease, alcohol and drugs. The Officers knee had absolutely nothing to do with it.
     
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    Lol...so why weren’t you out there protesting her murder by cop?
    Don’t you care about police brutality and the infestation of law enforcement by racists and bigots?
     
  21. Pollycy

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    Truly, dairy, it's got nothing to do with "skin color".

    There ARE differences between the races, though, and that's been documented exhaustively for over 150 years -- and each of the three main human races have different quantifiable characteristics that include both physical and behavioral.

    The latest genetic research actually suggests that the East-Asian (Oriental) race is the most intellectually advanced, and has the highest overall IQ. Caucasians (Whites) come in next, with slightly lower scores. And, yes, the largest decrease is seen in Blacks.

    Many different excuses and rationalizations are offered, passionately, by factions who seek to explain why Blacks commit the most violent crimes per capita in the United States (often without much scientific research to back up the various claims). There's nothing new in such findings, but acceptance of REALITY is always difficult for those who hope to change a situation by the promulgation of 'fanciful-thought' propaganda....

    When you mash all the air bubbles out of it, the entire human race will eventually be 'improved' by the intermingling of the three races, along with the interracial breeding, and the 'mash-up' of our gene pools. Thus, over time, the human race will be improved in a general sense, if we aren't destroyed first by those aspects of our racial makeup that bring out all the worst parts of us. Accordingly, after the stigma is removed from it (finally!), EUGENICS will be seen as not only a method of improving the entire human race, but it will be seen as perhaps the only thing that can ultimately "save us from ourselves"....

    Back on topic -- poor, old George Floyd would be alive today, merely facing charges of trying to pass a counterfeit twenty-dollar bill -- IF HE HAD OBEYED THE LAW. And, poor, old ex-officer, Derek Chauvin, would still be a veteran police officer today if only he'd had the sense to put George Floyd in the patrol car, have him sent to the station to be charged, and go on to deal with the next crime. There's plenty of stupidity and blame to go around in this whole nauseating fiasco....
     
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    I had no awareness of the video you refer to. BUT, I'm not a bit surprised that IF it shows what you describe, you'd never, EVER see it on the 'mainstream media' "news" casts....

    Please, do you have a link to this video clip, or has it already been deleted everywhere for being 'politically-incorrect'....
     
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    SKIN color by itself isn’t a factor. But culture and community is. Wealthy, educated, Black people aren’t harassed or murdered leaving their office or picking up groceries with their 2 kids in back seat in the suburbs...compared to the hood.

    Discussing behavior should be the issue. Why the disparity in single parent households? That is the core root of just about every issue that plagues the black community. Fatherless kids force welfare and dependence. It breaks the family unit. No family unit means terrible culture and community. No strong male figures create out of control boys who steal, rape and murder, breeding the next generation of broken homes. Cut off the source of the problem and you solve the problem.
     
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    One stat you've left off. How many cops are killed, shot or assaulted by Caucasians vs by blacks and then tell us how many unarmed Caucasians are shot by police.
     
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    of course I know that. we have 9 minutes of video footage showing that. You've seen it. You know he was not resisting as well as I do.
     

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