Black man dies after video shows officer kneeling on neck

A couple of things:

i) BY AN AMAZING COINCIDENCE, GEORGE FLOYD HAD A FATAL HEART ATTACK WHILE DEREK CHAUVIN WAS “KNEELING” ON HIS NECK

ii) The Minnesota coroner doing his level best to bail out these cops

Actually the coroner didn't say he had a heart attack. He said he had high blood pressure and at least some sediment in his arteries, I could have told you that before the autopsy, that's true of 3 out of 4 Black American adults.

So what? Have fun showing that having a 220 pound man kneel on one's neck for 8 minutes in a stressful situation does not raise one's risk of dying, at all, when in this case, he died.

iii) Death by asphyxiation can never be ruled out by the (purported) absence of physical trauma. Plenty of murder convictions in which the victim was strangled or smothered or choked to death are obtained without such evidence. You can choke someone to death without leaving obvious physical evidence of your crime on the victim’s body, but, in this case, we have video tape.

A blood choke gives the sensation of inability to breathe, when actually your airway is unobstructed. I've been choked like this thousands of times, I have choked others like this, thousands of times, if you want to experience it first hand, find a Jujitsu Dojo, it's a very common submission.

So you're clear on that, but also claim that putting pressure on his carotid artery didn't impede his blood flow?

iv) George Floyd was very much alive when Derek Chauvin got his hands on him, and dead by the time Chauvin stopped “arresting” him (he had no pulse when the ambulance arrived). The notion that a 46-year-old man who worked security at a bar had a fatal heart attack unrelated to asphyxiation at the same exact moment that Chauvin “appeared” to be asphyxiating him with his knee speaks for itself.

That unnecessarily kneeling on a man's neck for 8 minutes was "culpable negligence creating an unreasonable risk” of serious bodily harm"? When the guy died in the process?

You make statements, then I respond to them, then your reply doesn't reflect my explanation to you.

Hennepin County prosecutors have charged Chauvin with TWO different crimes:

third-degree depraved-indifference homicide.

and

second-degree manslaughter. This charge carries a maximum sentence of ten years’ imprisonment.​

The manslaughter charge requires only findings that Chauvin acted negligently and that his negligence both created an unreasonable risk and contributed in some way to Floyd's death.

 

What is the real issue? Police brutality, right?

So fix the police brutality by changing police procedures about what type of force is allowed. That would cut out brutality against all races, no?

 

LOL Nothing new under the sum.

 

He was complaining of shortness of breath before he went down even though he is clearly breathing. The ME says strangulation or asphyxiation were not the cause of death. Then what was? And I don't have to prove it was, just show a reasonable doubt it was not the knee on the neck. What evidence is there that it was the knee on the neck that caused his death?

That being said another autopsy says asphyxia due to neck and back compression, one paid for by the famil, if that is the case then that ramps it back up to a murder but we are now stuck with competing autopsies and will probably require another one.

"George Floyd's family does not agree with the Medical Examiner's findings, so they have had their own autopsy conducted ... and will announce the results in a news conference shortly.

TMZ will be live streaming the independent autopsy findings, which come from famed forensic pathologists, Dr. Michael Baden, and Dr. Allecia Wilson. Baden is known for his involvement in the O.J. Simpson trial, and more recently, conducting a private autopsy for Jeffrey Epstein ... and suggesting he may have been murdered.

Floyd's family enlisted the 2 experts after the M.E. concluded ... "The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death."

The M.E. added there were no "physical findings to support diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation," which many believe opens up the door for a defense for Derek Chauvin, the ex-Minneapolis cop accused of murdering Floyd."
https://www.tmz.com/2020/06/01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-findings-family-news-conference/

I'll wait for Baden and Wilson to discuss exactly what they found that leads to their conclusion.

 

Hope:

 

Sworn Uniformed Officers Take a Knee For George Floyd:

 

We know what he concluded.

We also now have the family paid for autopsy which is contradicting the ME and that will have to be sorted out probably with a third autopsy by whom remains to be established.

 

We only have his preliminary report, so far. Do you know what the word preliminary means?

 

Independent Autopsy:

Family autopsy: Floyd asphyxiated by sustained pressure

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a...back-compression/ar-BB14Tr7v?&ocid=spartanntp

 

~ This is very touching but in very bad taste. George Floyd also "took a knee" - and now he's dead.

 

~ This will be very interesting. I often wonder about these "official" autopsy reports in high profile deaths .

 

The number of shooting deaths by police show the numbers are very small, indicating that overall, police are doing a decent job using appropriate procedures. Odds of an American being shot and killed by a police officer = 0.0003%. Add that most shootings are justifiable....self defense, stopping a violent crime, etc. That leaves maybe one case a month of highly-publicized and politicized deaths where the police acted in a highly inappropriate manner, or at least is highly questionable in the face of all the evidence. We need to analyze potentially life-threatening police procedures in a calm and rational manner, and not go burning cities to the ground.

 

I wondered when this case would be brought up:

 

If that's true then he killed him and should pay the price.

Of course now we've got a dozen more dead people so far, the poor have nowhere to shop or work, but hey, "progress".

 

The fringe far-left sort of ruins the narrative that people are victims of police brutality when only #SomeLivesMatter.

Pretty much everyone is in favor of justice for George Floyd and seeing Chauvin punished and jailed for excessive use of force. Having the rioters causing unnecessary deaths and destruction while chanting "No Justice, No Peace" just turn the entire concept of justice, as most of us recognize it, into a political and hypocritical farce.

 

The ME has an inherent Conflict of Interest in this Case
Let's wait and see how the ME stacks up against an Independent Autopsy

HMMMMM There seems to be a Problem

 

Sure we get the highlights in which he said he found no evidence of strangulation or traumatic asphyxiation. You think his full report will contradict that?

 

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-01/george-floyd-independent-autopsy-asphyxia

The biased police autopsy goes like:
The family’s autopsy differs from the official autopsy as described in a criminal complaint against the officer. That autopsy included the effects of being restrained, along with underlying health issues and potential intoxicants in Floyd’s system

As I said. They restrained him for 9 minutes long in order to get him murdered combined with his already underlying health issues. Not like 10 seconds. The lynching took 9 minutes

The independent autopsy clearly points at asphyxiation.
So why are you trolling around when somebody got lynched in such an ugly way?

Something wrong with a tit for tat all the sudden?

 

As I noted. Baden will be on Hannity tonight. As I said days ago that there would be a family autopsy. Now where does the third INDEPENDENT autopsy come from to mediate these differences in findings?

 

RESTRICTED. If he was being strangled and his air flow cut off how was he yelling and screaming?

So you are for lynchings now..............WOW.

 

They aint cops. So they have to authority to detain anybody. That's a crime, and people may attack criminals out of self defense.

Yes the do. Racism is institutionalized at every turn.
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2413&context=articles

Yeah you say that... while the world sees that American cops are doing drive by pepper spraying, shooting at the press, arresting the press all over the country. Bunch of thugs. Hardly a good apple among them. And I proved they treat black people the worst.

 

NY State Senator Myrie says he was handcuffed and pepper sprayed while peacefully protesting.

I'm seeing other reports of state and federal Congress critters getting the same.

 

Cops shot at and arrested the press all over the US. That's already against police procedures. Slowly lynching a man with his hands tied behind his back for almost 9 minutes, pleading for aid, but cops just go on with their lynching.... is not according to police procedures. It's time for the US government take responsibility over their failure to curb this insane violence by the police and the racism that's present in the US justice department and step down. This is what the US government wants to happen when this happens elsewhere.

https://www.hamiltonproject.org/cha...y_race_rates_of_drug_related_criminal_justice


Amount of crime is an equal share. The amount of people arrested, and later also convicted show the US justice department has racism institutionalized.

 

Cops are also shooting at the press all over.
There are police misconduct vids about this protest over 20 minutes long.
Trying to drive people over with cars. Drive by pepper spraying. Running people over by horse.
Kicking down elderly with a walking stick. Lots of cops covering up their badge number with tape.

The thugs are out on the street alright. And they are usually white and wearing badges.


Police officer families also experience 4 times more often domestic violence.
It's a violent breed. And they take their ways to their homes often enough.

 

Yes they are the ones burning down America. Trump has let the slip the dogs of war, the military and all federal forces are FULLY mobilized. He said as much not 30 minutes ago. The hammer is coming down SO HARD tonight. I hope to god the ringleaders get treason charges with special circumstances. THIS HAS TO END NOW!