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Wait, our police departments are heavily funded and have advanced military equipment, but in your mind they don't have enough resources? Good lord...

 

Violent rightists, otherwise known as American police, have started most of the rioting and initiated violence in almost every instance. Your denial of this reality doesn't change the reality.

 

small government was never anarchy. Nothing was cast aside.

I don't feel the slightest bit hypocritical saying that people shouldn't have the liberty to commit crime.

So you can posture and attempt to gaslight to your little hearts content I know My views better than you do.

And I never thought anyone ever had the right to destroy property steel or assault people.

Precisely. I do not support arson vandalism or any of those sorts of things because they interfere with other people's liberty.

 

You are objectively wrong in every way imaginable. Police escalation leads to further violence. These issues have been studied and the evidence is overwhelming that police rioting leads to more violence, not less. On top of that, the violence is almost always initiated by the violent thugs who make up America's police forces.

 

There weren’t enough officers on the street. They were outnumbered 10 to 1. The politicians should have had the national guard out there last Tuesday.

 

if you commit crimes and the state prosecutes you. If you obey laws that submitting to the will of the state.

Then they pay the consequences and I shed not a single tear for them.

 

Incorrect, I am objectively correct with everything I said there. Police escalation coupled with strict punishment for leaders of this violence is objectively the best way to stop it. You cannot placate these peoples anger that has been drummed up by false narratives.

the violence is always initiated by the violent leftist thugs looting and pillaging.

You are factually wrong in every way imaginable

 

Small government isn't anarchy, what does that have to do with your cheer leading for a police state? Your cheer leading for militarized cops attacking peaceful protesters?

If you don't understand the contradiction between cheer leading for a police state and support for small government, why are your wasting your time sharing your opinions on a political forum. A person cannot honestly support both police against citizens and small government, they are antithetical to each other.

You are only opposed to people's right to destroy steel? Why are you committed to protecting steel, but not other kinds of metal?

Joking aside, the cops are the ones assaulting people. Which is exactly why you should oppose them.

Does a person need to choose a side? Either you support arson, vandalism, etc. or you support a militarized police force declaring war on its own citizens and repeatedly assaulting them for no reason? Why does that choice exist? I for one oppose both arson and police brutality, as does everyone who actually supports limited government.

PS. You need to learn how to use commas.

 

False, it is the violent leftist rioters starting the violence based on false narratives. You can pretend this isn’t true but the reality is I am objectively correct regardless of how you choose to “feel”.

 

So you think police officers should outnumber the citizens of this country? Holy ****, that is a truly radical view.

 

They don’t, that’s why so many businesses have been destroyed.

 

Not even close to what he said, you simply make up arguments and straw men as you go.

 

I'm sorry I will never see the idea that having police that enforce laws equals a police state.

That's what we're talking about they were dispersing rioters.

Good I'm glad that's their job.

again no matter how many times do you say at I will never think police enforcing lot equates to a police state.

your attempt to gaslight has failed.

I don't oppose police. I never will laws need enforcement.

is there only a choice between total anarchy and absolute police state?

You can whine and crying about me making a false cards in the midst of you making false causes but I don't care.

I don't believe having police equates to a police state.

I do too I didn't see police brutality I saw a law enforcement. Police give a lawful order some people choose to a bit others choose the defiant and they pay the consequences.

if it bothers you that I don't use Commons where you think I should then don't read my posts.

 

This is amazing. Leftists engage in violent riots all over the country and people are dead because leftists engage in violent riots across the country. But when people who think they're immune to violence when leftists engage in violence across the county are touched by it, it's not the fault of the leftists who engage in violent riots across the country, it the fault of police who are trying to stop leftists from engaging in violent riots across the country.

 

https://scholarship.law.slu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1028&context=plr

http://davidschweingruber.com/docs/McPhail&al(1998).pdf

https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...es-why-departments-respond-with-force-anyway/

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/style/police-protests-video.html







On top of overwhelming secondary evidence, I have been to the protests, and I can tell you the violence is initiated by the police 100% of the time in the places I've been in Chicago. That doesn't mean it always is, because I am only in one place at a time, but the evidence coming in from across the country supports my experiences.

PS. If you read any of that or watched any of that, I would be absolutely shocked. You have no interest in evidence or reality. You simply want to comfortably have your unsupported preconceptions reproduced.

 

What grade are you in?

I’ll make it simple: we should have more officers than looters and arsonists, but fewer officers than the number of people in the country.

 

Your evidence is just anecdote, the reality is if force didn’t work we would never use it. Yet where force is used businesses are saved as well as lives. List all the anecdotes you want the truth continues existing and proving you wrong .
I’d be shocked if you at all took the time to recognize your anecdotes don’t prove you right. You simply are set in your objectively incorrect stance. Nonetheless, you are wrong.

 

Some context would be nice on those videos. Like the start of it.

 

I watched some of the middle video. Pushing a guy is considered police violence in your world?

If mere pushes are considered violent, then how much worse is the violence by the raging leftists rioters? Call me when a cop throws a molotov cocktail into a car full of BLM terrorists.

 

I presented evidence, unsurprisingly you did not.

 

He hasn’t thought his positions through at all, he simply watches a few videos of anecdotes and creates broad sweeping emotional viewpoints.

force is the only way we can stop these savages from continuing to destroy America. Force and charges on those we can catch, especially the leaders.

 

Police are the ones who riot in almost every instance. Police are the ones who initiate violence in almost every instance. Police are the ones who escalate in almost every instance. That is a police problem, not a protester problem.

 

I believe what they can do is ensure that the crowds aren’t impeding or loitering in public land. But again they can only enforce laws. They can’t make law.

An example: Park closes at 7PM. Police can not force me to leave before 7PM as long as I am obeying all rules and laws.

 

You presented anecdotes, it never ceases to amaze me how the left thinks anecdotes are adequate evidence lmao.

 

Incorrect police are the ones stopping the violent rioters in almost every instance. They are the ones dealing with the violent leftist escalations. The rioters are the problem, not the police.