Mattis tears into Trump:”We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership

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    Fake News. Transparent election cycle smears like that are not effective anymore.
    The DNC should start the search for smarter political strategists.
     
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    The economy, he outperformed Obama there by a long shot. Obama’s unemployment went down at the same rate his labor force participation rate went down.
     
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    Almost all Americans, left to right, support the military not militarism.

    "Jill Stein responds to Sanders' endorsement of Clinton

    "I join millions of Americans who see Hillary Clinton's campaign as the opposite of what they and Bernie Sanders have fought for. Despite her penchant for flip flopping rhetoric, Hillary Clinton has spent decades consistently serving the causes of Wall Street, war and the Walmart economy."
    https://www.jill2016.com/sanders_endorsement_clinton
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Now having a conscience is a sign of emotional weakness?

    First honest Trumper I've yet come across.
     
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    That’s not even an argument you just created, the reality is more minorities than you realize actually support him. They see through the lies of the main stream media and the Democrats. That should scare Democrats.
     
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    I'm saying there's no such thing as a "Russian Hoax", as Rosenstein confirmed yesterday..

    My claim was, and the Mueller report proved, the members of the Trump CAMPAIGN colluded with the Russians...

    There was apparently no "tacit or express agreement" to do so between the Trump campaign and the Russian Government (no ****), so that result doesn't change my opinion one iota...
     
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    If you don’t believe there was a Russian hoax then you weren’t paying attention, the claim was that Trump colluded with Russia and that was debunked easily. The hoax that the Democrats fell through and they were made to look foolish.
     
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    YOU criticised Mattis by criticisng the military. And WTF does Clinton or Stein have to do with this thread?
     
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    Everything I've seen shows the same basic trends across both presidents, before Covid, obviously.
     
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    Is this opposite day? Trump shows his emotions all the time. Anger, fear, lack of confidence ...
    And logical? He is the opposite of logical. He has even said himself that he makes decisions based on his gut, not on analysis.

    He is literally the opposite of what you claim is important in a leader.
     
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    If you don’t believe there was a Russian hoax then you weren’t paying attention, the claim was that Trump colluded with Russia and that was debunked easily. The hoax that the Democrats fell through and they were made to look foolish
    That’s because you’re not actually looking you’re listening to talking points. The objective reality is during Obama the labor force participation rate went down at the exact same time his unemployment went down. That’s because his numbers were false. Under Trump unemployment went down and reached historic lows while the labor force participation rate went up at that exact same time so did the amount of people on government assistance go down.
     
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    You just described every Democrat perfectly
     
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    MadDog Mattis gets to look at himself on the TV news for a couple of days. General MaCarthur would be be proud of him. He reminds of Ross Perot that little gerbil who ran for president in '92 and got Bill Clinton elected.
     
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    I can promise you that I'm likely to the right of you on economics, and I'm definitely to the right of Trump on economics. If you have evidence to support your claims, I'm willing to hear it. So far, the whole "Trump economic miracle" religion looks like superstitious nonsense.
     
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    I’ve learned not to go out of my way to try and inform those who are willfully uninformed. It’s a waste of time. But the objective reality is that Trump had made a better economy that Obama. Obama had fake numbers and it was so obvious. You don’t have to like trump but the reality is he did a great job with the economy.
     
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    I'll take that to mean you are not able to back up your claims with facts and instead are engaging in misguided hero worship, divorced from any economic reality. Cool beans.
     
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    Based on lack of substance and staying on topic you appear to be one of these people that get paid 50 cents per post.
    Like I said. Show him (Duke) at a Trump rally signing autographs.
    This is Duke at a Charlottesville political rally about the removal of statue. IT IS NOT A TRUMP RALLY as you know perfectly well. Trump was not at this rally. Why do you deliberately lie?
     
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    You can take it to mean whatever you want but the data supports everything that I am saying. Just because you refuse to go out of your way to being informed individual and see the data yourself is not my fault if I am objectively correct.
     
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    BS, I criticized Mattis, the high command, and the corrupt military industrial complex as well as the obscene ruling political class. Americans left to right are fed up with their act.

    Jill Stein's and Tulsi Gabbards' criticism of the "queen of warmongers" Hillary Clinton was right on point. Anyone on the left who offers James Mattis or any of these Deep State warmongers as a credible source needs to hit the books.

    "Secretary of Defense James Mattis is implicated in one of the largest business scandals of the past decades, described by the Securities and Exchange Commission as an “elaborate, years-long fraud” through which Theranos, led by CEO Elizabeth Holmes and president Ramesh “Sunny” Balwani, “exaggerated or made false statements about the company’s technology, business, and financial performance.”

    Basically, their biotech startup was founded on the promise of faster, cheaper, painless blood tests. But their technology was fake.

    Mattis not only served on Theranos’s board during some of the years it was perpetrating the fraud after he retired from US military service, but he earlier served as a key advocate of putting the company’s technology (technology that was, to be clear, fake) to use inside the military while he was still serving as a general. Holmes is settling the case, paying a $500,000 fee and accepting various other penalties, while Balwani is fighting it out in court.
    POLITICO, James Mattis is linked to a massive corporate fraud and nobody wants to talk about it, Better let a scandal slide than risk a nuclear war., By Matthew Yglesias Mar 16, 2018.
    https://www.vox.com/2018/3/16/17124288/mattis-theranos-board-trump
     
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    If the data supported what you said, you'd be willing to produce the data when requested. You refuse. For obvious reasons, unfortunately.
     
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    The data objectively supports what I said, but the reality is if you don’t know about it it’s because you don’t want to know about it. That’s all on you, but nonetheless I am objectively correct.
     
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    I do want to know about it, if it is true, and that is why I ****ING ASKED FOR YOUR DATA. If you can't support your propositions, that's on you. You are objectively unwilling to support your own claims.
     
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    He has a history of making a claim, faiing to back it up, then putting the onus on the person who called him on it to prove that he's wrong.
     
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    Not surprising.
     
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    You, of course, have the right to your opinion. But you don't have the right to change the truth to suit your narrative.

    Colin K didn't 'diss' America. He saw an injustice and he protested it. Peacefully.

    And to suggest that it did nothing is, yet, another distortion of the truth. The fact that all I had to write was 'Colin K' and you knew exactly who and what I meant. You may not have respected his view or even his method of protest - but it spoke to and inspired millions. How could you discount it as having done 'nothing'? It inspired conversation - discussion - disagreement. As any good protest should do.

    And finally, to say that he sought to improve his own condition...really? How would that act improve his condition? He was one of the few black quarter backs in the NFL. What more could he want? The reality is that his decision resulted in the end of his career.
     

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