Republicans, at some point, you are going to wake up.....

I’m an atheist and a republican. I’m glad he hasn’t read it.

 

NOW I get it!

The propaganda has FINALLY worked!!

As in 2016, I won't vote for Trump in 2020.

But he'll still win.

In a landslide.

 

Oh snizzap!

 

That's part of the national defense. About the only valid role of the government.

 

But there was no need to create it.....that is the point!

 

Government's role is to protect us from threats, internal and external. Redistribution of income is not a basic (or valid) function of government.

The lower government's share of the GDP is, the more free and wealthy a society becomes.

 

More no sense first in most cases we didn't know whether they were there kids child trafficking being rampant on the border. 2nd that was the effing law as determined by the ninth circuit.

 

When are you going to stop listening to twits on twitter to get your opinions on something?

 

Well, the opinion given in this thread is that Trump is a conman. I think that is backed up by the Rev. Hendrickson and the cartoon makes it very clear why, as well. In fact, I think that point is irrefutable, based on what I've posted in this thread.

If you think Rev. Hendrickson ( Rector, actually) is a twit, care to say why? Or back it up with something, anything whereby a reasonable person might agree with that premise?

 

I didn't realize I'd posted it twice, it's a glitch in my computer, or something.

 

so, military and police. Nothing else? No trips to the moon? No educating children? No Waste management? No vaccine and drug development?
No technological breakthroughs private industry will not take a chance on? No delivering mail to rural areas which would be too costly for private enterprize? No development of the internet? No airport & transportation management, no air traffic controllers? No management of national parks, just let private companies do their thing with them? No forest management, animal/game management? No animal control in local cities? No social services? No care for the mentally ill? No food for poor children? No health care for the elderly and needy? No organ player every sunday morning at the organ pavillion in San Diego? No courts of any kind? No trash pick up in the city, no waste water management? No hydroelectric power and electrical management? No science of any kind, the astronomical departments? No aquatic and marine research and management? No policy makers in city, state, and government? No regulation and management of a limited resource called the airwaves? No stewardship of agriculture and land management through technology and research? No management of maritime matters? No fire department? No regulation of buildings and permits? No liaisons promoting trade to other nations? No concerns for the welfare of developing nations? No peace corp extendingi America's goodwill to developing nations? End all NGO's that are publicly funded? ( there's a lot of them doing a wide variety things that are good for America, way way way beyond your limited imagination as you have revealed it in yor comment ). No civil and engineering & waste management? No department of agriculture ( they do a lot of things, very necessary things )
No Housing Development? No federal reserve?

Just chuck it all, leaving only the military and police, that's it?
Are you ****ing kidding me?

So, repeal the 16th amendment then?

Well, there's a lot less of that today than in the 50s, when the standard of living was better than it is today. the gap between a CEO's pay was about 50:1 in the 50s, today it's about 300:1 and this is proportional to the chipping away of the progressivity in taxation. Therefore, democrats disagree with you. See, such a thing could not have been foreseen when the forefathers created this nation. Sometimes, you just have to adapt to changing conditions, and the government must adjust, define new responsibilities, etc. The forefathers couldn't have predict NASA, either. You premise is so simplistic, unrealistic as it is dangerous.

The opposite actually happens. What actually happens is similar to what it was like in Russia before the bolsevik revolution. This is true for either extreme.

What I mean is that absolute unfettered capitalism, and it's opposite, total state ownership of all production and distribution, both of these extremes lead us to a similar place. Totalitarianism exits on both sides of the political spectrum, right and left.

The secret, Tex, is to live in the middle, because the middle is THE place which is the farthest away from those extremes. Where does the pendulum rest? It rest upon arrival at dead center. There is no other place to rest.

In fact, what actually happens is what happened in Russia, long hours, low pay, dangerous working conditions, exploitation of the masses, and this kind of thing often leads to revolutions, and revolutions rarely have good outcomes.

That's an incredibly simplistic view, no wonder the right cannot run a country worth a damn. In fact, trump has understaffed the state department, about half the ambassadorships are unfilled and it's precisely this simplistic thinking that he has done so. this is similar to flying a jet without an instrument panel. This is simplistic, and mindbogglingly unwise as it is plain stupid, in it's thinking.

What we would wind up with is a country owned by a handful of people, we'd wind up with something similar to what Russia is today. they had an aristocracy, and the only difference would be instead of an aristrocracy, we would have a plutocracy -- oligarchical rule with a titular head, which is, in essence, what fascism is.

We would be poorer, and slaves to corporations, there would be no protections of any kind for workers, working conditions would return to what it was like in russia before bolshevik revolution -- think about why they revolted, or any revolution, it's a response to unfettered free enterprize, which is anything but free if it's not regulated, there is no government by and for the people to control it from it's inevitable excess ( that's what would happen if there wer no democrats) and the group that would not be free would be people like you and me ) -- it would be a anarcho-capitalist-plutocracy/oligarchy controlled by the banking/military industrial complex, which Eisenhower warned the nation about in his final speech before leaving the presidency.

That's where libertarianism leads us to, where what Ayn Rand's philosophy would lead us to.

You see, Tex, the world is a lot more complicated than you wish it were. You really should thank democrats for not allowing our country to tread down that very dangerous road you want America to travel on.

 

I think you missed the point of the cartoon. Take another look.

 

Did Clinton use the Bible as a prop?

I think the fact that Trump has never read the bible is a safe assumption. In fact, in light of such incidences, like this one, for example, ( and this isn't the first time he's done this ) we can advance from assuming to presuming he hasn't read it.


https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1267644231436218369







He hasn't read it. You can take that one to the bank.

IN fact, he's total frickin' phony. Just listen to how he answers these questions.

 

Trump's modified the famous quote by Lincoln ( courtesy of PT Barnum)

"You can't fool all of the people all of the time, but you can fool some of the poeple some of the time.........

and it's just enough to make a good living"

 

Your opinion is that Trump is a conman along with a few other people. Obviously not everyone agrees. Otherwise this thread wouldn't be 4 pages long. Besides, this thread doesn't prove Trump a conman. People opining =/= proof.

As for "Rector", or whatever his name is, he posts on Twitter. That's enough for me.

 

Yes,Trump does that a lot, he projects, accuses others of the very thing he does. He does that a lot.

The parties of yesteryear are not the parties of modernity. Concepts of conservatism vs modern liberalism didn't exist during Lincoln.

Today, the KKK favors Trump. Long ago, dems controlled the south, today, republicans control it.

I am not a Christian, I'm more into eastern philosophy, but I know enough about the Bible and have been around religious people enough to know that Trump has never read the bible, and he uses it as a prop. His father may have took him to church as a child, but someone is going to have to prove to me that since he left home as a child, he is really a religious person. I doubt it. He says he is, but he uses it to pander to the religious right, which, to me, is sickening, 'cause I'm pretty sure he is a phony, a hypocrite. When he talks about his 'pastor' he doesn't talk about the message, he talks about how impressed he was about how he delivered the sermon. This is Trump. When people ask him about events, to discuss, he always focuses on how the events were covered in the media, and how they covered him. See where I'm going? This is who Trump is. He doesn't give a damn about anything, he has no convictions of any kind, everything in Trump's universe is about Trump. In his office in NyC, he had a framed copy of Time magazine with himself on the cover. Thing is, at the time, Time had never put Trump on the cover. Trump just had one made for himself. There's a book written by a guy who played golf him, who played golf with him a lot. The premise of the book was that you can tell a lot about a person on how they approach golf. How does Trump approach golf? He cheats. This is not a pious man, let that be known, and know it good. What kind of pious man would fornicate with a porn star, and then a playboy playmate, just after his newlywed wife had given birth? What kind of pious man would use eminent domain to steal a house from a widow just so he could build a limo garage? ( I got a long list of this kind of crap ).

Trump simply can't say that he's ever asked God for forgiveness. Show me one Christian who hasn't?

Trump is not a pious man, he's a phone, pure and simple. He's a con man. A huckster, and probably the best con man who ever lived.

https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1267644231436218369




Ayn Rand is a hypocrite, plain and simple, and her ideas are wack. I'm all for individualism and individual responsibility, but she takes it too far, as most conservatives do. They'd let a man who doesn't have health insurance bleeding in the streets die, if they had their way. Ron Paul was asked that question, and he gave precisely that answer. See, I'm all for individual responsibility, but that mentality is just wrong. that's taking it too far.

 

Says who? So we can have a violent militaristic police state and you imagine that could still be defined as small government?

 

He's pandering. My gawd, you don't see it?

He's not a pious man. He was asked a number of times if he has ever asked God for forgiveness.

He never answers that question, and dodges the question, he'll go off and talk about his 'pastor' not about his message, but about how impressed he was of the pastor's delivery. In fact, he couldn't admit that he has ever sinned, or did anything wrong were he would need to ask God for forgiveness.
he was asked about his favorite passages in the Bible, he dodged the question. He was asked whether he prefered the old or new testament, he had to give it a lot of thought, and then he said 'he likes both", did he mention what it was of each he liked, did he talk about the story of Job? Maybe he didn't care for Leviticus that much? Did he ever gives us the slightest hint that he has ever read the book at all? No passages from Psalms? Has Trump ever talked about Christ's teaching on any level, ever? What it means to be a Christian? He brags that 'The Art Of The Deal' ( which he didn't write, though he'd leave you to believe he did ) was his second favorite book, and his first book is the Bible, but he can't tell us anything about the book he loves so much. Doesn't that strike you as odd? If you knew that Trump is a liar, a cheat, and a conman, then it all makes sense, and, in fact, it's the only thing that does make sense.

Some Christian he is. He has NO remorse for anything he's done in his life, and if anyone ever had a reason to ask God for forgiveness, it's Donald Trump, who has been sued over 100 times for stiffing contractors, stealing from his foundation for personal expenses, for fornicating with a porn star and a playmate just after his newlywed wife had given birth, for paying illegal immigrants below scale because he knew he could have them deported, etc, etc. This is the kind of man that would try and steal a house from a widow in order to build a limo garage. Oh crap, he did!

I'm sorry, the man is a walking, talking, stalking, hypocrite and con man.

 

Trump posts on twitter, is that enough for you?

In fact, just about everybody who is somebody posts on twitter, that enough for you, too?

If you were in business, especially if you were an opinion leader, you would be a fool not to post on twitter.

My gawd, man, think about what you are saying sometimes.

As for proving Trump is conman, I didn't do it in this thread, but there are some 22 books on Trump that do more than an adequate job.

 

And he's an idiot for doing so. Your point? Oh wait...you didn't expect that response did you?

21% of Twitter accounts are in the US. Or about 55 million people. Which equals to about 16-17 percent of US citizens. 31 million of that 55 million are monetized. Your "everybody who is somebody" comment is just elitist claptrap meant to make you feel better and doesn't reflect reality. What's really sad is that apparently 71% of people using twitter say they use it to get their news. Twitter is a cesspool.

There are always exceptions to every rule. Businesses using Twitter are being smart in using what is essentially a free service which gives free advertisement if you run it right.

Yes, 22 books written by people wanting to take advantage of bashing a President. Happened with Obama also. And Bush. And Clinton. etc etc. Your attempt to use books designed to sell is meaningless.

 

Says the Constitution.

 

~ See it ? Most of us have been living it for decades. We've "been had" for the last 35 years. Irresponsible cronies running the great USA into the ground. Career political hacks pandering to criminals, illegal aliens, and every other country but America. Lopsided trade deals that favor other countries, jackass military strategies causing unnecessary loss of life and never result in victory .
If America is to survive as an independent nation we need a total flush of upper government. That is just beginning to happen. People who voted for Trump have been paying attention.

 

So you spam the forum then blame your computer......nice!

 

Read what I posted...

I clearly called it a photo op...

Literally the very first sentence

 

Government is inefficient and often heavy handed. The USPS is a disaster. And in American schools, we pay the highest amount per pupil in the world and we’re ranked about #35 in education.

At this point, we need more Milton Friedman & Ayn Rand, and less Vladimir Lenin & Che Guevara.