The George Floyd Murder Protests: Lets be clear about what is really going on.

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  1. Thought Criminal

    Thought Criminal Well-Known Member Donor

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    "I'm hearing a choirs of bleating from the right who will paint all protesters as violent thugs who are committing assaults and vandalism..."

    "They are lying or they are stupid."

    "...the far right knows the value of fomenting trouble in order to promote an entirely different agenda then that of the protesters."


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-clear-about-what-is-really-going-on.573351/
     
  2. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your video only show a small part of the story. Like so much we only hear the part where enforcement is bad. How many cops have been very seriously hurt in the past weeks? If that gal had interferred in an investigation, and behaved in a threatening way to police officers, hell yeah she deserved to be slammed on the ground. It's of no concequence you say she only weighed 95 pounds.
    See, most of us were taught to comply with officers, understanding they have a difficult job. We comply but if treated unjustly, we take it up with the court after the dust has settled. In behaving that way, I have found police to be relieved and even a little grateful that their is respect for what they do. Maybe you just don't understand that coming from a completely different perspective.
     
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    Was it an excessive use of force, or was it just an excessive outcome?
     
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    The cop didn't even go to give the man aid as he was lying with blood flowing from his head.
     
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    You mean when he shot and killed an armed guy?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Which cop? This may test you!
     
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  7. Bluesguy

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    And if I see a line of riot control police walking towards me lawfully clearing a street I don't go up and confront them and interfere with what they are doing. Especially if such police have been subject for days and days from attacks by these rioters including some being killed. These officers are being investigated for what occurred.

    So what about all the "bad apples"?
    Why are you defending these "bad apples" that are in all our cities burning and looting and destroying private property and attacking innocent citizens and require mass units of police to arrest them?
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    No a medium sized one could probably do so. And if you freely and voluntarily go to the scene of a riot and refuse to follow the lawful orders of the police you WILL be confronted and whatever legal force necessary will be applied. Do you think just because the person is a woman they get a bye or something from the law?

    Why do you defend these law breakers who are destroying private property, defacing and destroying our public property, attacking innocent citizens and causing anarchy across the country?
     
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  9. Bluesguy

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    And I can post videos of police officers being attacked and innocent citizens being attacked.....................so what?
     
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    So I thought the police were suppose to uphold the law. No wonder they think it's ok to not do so.
     
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  12. Bluesguy

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    They are and trying to enforce it, suggest you not go down to the riots and interfere. Why are you defending these riots and destruction and attacks on innocent citizens?
     
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    Did you watch the video? I don't think it required that action, do you? That dude could have grabbed her hands and slowly manipulated them into whatever position he wanted to cuff her.
     
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    Is there anything to suggest that he MIGHT have put up with it?
     
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    Not that I am aware of.
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    He passed it, that is all that was need to arrest him. Too bad he resisted arrest causing a physical struggled which triggered a cardiac event. Had he simply gone down to the station and explained where he got it and maybe given the police the leads to find out who, if it was not him, produced it then that person could have been charged. But for now we know he passed a phony bill which is a crime, he had illegal drugs in his system, crimes. Of course he was out of prison after serving 5 years for armed robbery with other crimes before that.
     
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    The Republican party courted the younger generations which had stood up to the Democrat segregationist who eventually died away or were voted out of office.
     
  18. Bluesguy

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    You don't know what you are talking about nor the extent of what is going on as evidence by your claim it's only been a couple of businesses and a few windows.

    Save everyone some time around here and go educate yourself on what is happening.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    None. How many unarmed black men were shot and killed by police last year lawful and unlawful combined?
     
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    First, I had better say the obligatory "God bless the protestors." Now...does anyone else think it's time for them to go home? They have had their say, it was good and just, and their American-given right. At this time, all they are doing is enabling the rioters and camouflaging them. And my instinct tells me about half of them actually become rioters after dark. If you don't want to be part of the problem, go home.
     
  21. LangleyMan

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    They will show up for work, but will they go out shopping?

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    Do you think people give a damn about your example?
    Their daughter had a birthday and you held a party for her that you won't move to July per their request? They can attend "the singing part" on FaceTime? Did you make this up?

    Anyway, assuming your story is true, if you were my relative and you talked to me like that, you could do me a favor by losing my number.
    Yeah, move on and keep going.
    If we're lucky, your approach will only kill 500,000 Americans and cause a nasty recession, not a depression.

    You may get your way because the people who want us to suppress the virus as they've already done in Australia...

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    ... have been undermined by the continuing antiracism protests that have completely ignored social distancing.

    Australia with 25m people has 100 COVID-19 deaths and now they're opening up their economy

    What does all this say about this country? Nothing good.
     
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    Did you watch it and listen to the reporter. She had already attacked a security guard and a police officer and then came back and was resisting. Here's a hint, don't attack security guards and police and if you are going to phsically confront police don't do it in a short skirt and stiletto heels while carrying a big purse.

    BTW as far as the woman in the video

    Aug. 24, 2018: A jury finds Surat guilty on both misdemeanor counts.

    Oct. 22, 2018:Surat is sentenced to one year supervised probation, 48 hours of community service, an alcohol evaluation and a Making Better Choices class.
     
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    No proof he resisted arrest.
     
  24. LangleyMan

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    Why are you equating "protesters" with "rioters and looters?"
    Ayn Rand? Egads.
    Ah, they're all the same to you. Figures.
     
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    Why would you assume that from what I wrote?

    I can't support the protests even though I strongly support dealing with racism because the demonstrators are ignoring social distancing in the middle of a pandemic that's killed more than 100,000 Americans.
     
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