Does white privilege really exist?

Judging by your responses, you are trying to twist my posts however you feel necessary to claim racism. Must be tiring trying to constantly play the victim, even when there is no reason to.

 

I’m not sure what exactly it is that you are referring to. Look at basketball - blacks are not 13% of all basketball player. Their share is a lot higher and no one blames racism. Women are roughly half of our population, but in Congress there are a lot less of them. You won’t find that many women in industries such as construction. At the same time, nurses and teachers are mostly women. Can you blame sexism for that?
Blacks being over or underrepresented in some areas does not prove anything. The correlation cannot be explained by racism. The problem is much more complex than that.

 

No, I'm acknowledging the implicit nature of your posts. That you don't understand how dodgy it is to refer to the "black community" as if they are inferior with the issues you mention is none of my concern. Just think! Grow as a person.

Inane effort. Why don't you reply to what I said. Here it is: The nature of orthodox discrimination theory is based on the acceptance of white privilege. The Chicago School involved call it nepotism. Are you suggesting that the likes of Gary Becker are left wing?

 

Empirical evidence. I'll set you a task. Show that discrimination doesn't exist using an Oaxaca-Ransom decomposition method (its based on right wing discrimination theory so you surely should celebrate it). You can do it in Excel, so no excuse!

Get going.

 

No more "dodgy" than you claiming the white community has privilege.

You seem to have a strong agenda, the agenda that everyone is racist and owes you something. If anyone needs to grow as a person, it's you.

 

Look at you trying to use whine to hide! Let's try again: The nature of orthodox discrimination theory is based on the acceptance of white privilege. The Chicago School involved call it nepotism. Are you suggesting that the likes of Gary Becker are left wing?

 

I'm not familiar and don't really care to spend any time looking into it. Your agenda is exposed. Do you spend your extra time figuring out how to blame your shortfalls on others?

 

So, in summary, you're whinging that white privilege doesn't exist despite the fact that right wing discrimination analysis starts from the premise that it does. You're just too lazy to read what the right wingers have said? Crikey, when right wingers can't be bothered with right wing analysis we really are in the territory of Trump orgasm.

 

How about educate yourself, get a job, don't commit crimes and work hard for what you have. It's not as complicated as you make it out to be. If someone chooses to do otherwise, don't call me privileged because I made better choices. White privilege only exists in your mind to make you feel better. It doesn't exist.

 

Hey? You're the one that doesn't know right wing discrimination analysis. Despite being left wing, I do know it. Please try and make sense.

 

And yet I'm the one who is supposedly privileged. Poor you.

 

Is this supposed to be a coherent response to what I said? Crikey!

 

OK the white privilege thesis as I understand it, is that in our society, white people, as white people, are privileged above all others. What is the basis of this belief and is there empirical data to support it.

 

Well, this function has variables that are based on assumptions.
The issue is not the formula, the issue is what’s in “explanatory” variable.
Any mathematical function is like a machine - it will grind through input variables. If your input is rigged then the quality of your output will be of no value.
Also, the resulting number is up for interpretation. Maybe cat ownership explains it. Maybe skin color. Who knows?
But there is definitely an interesting trend divergence between immigrant blacks and native blacks, which nullifies the possibility that the race is a factor.
If race cannot be a known explanatory variable when comparing immigrated blacks to native blacks then it cannot be the explanatory variable when applied to the rest of the population.
Care to try to dispute that?

 

So let me follow your logic here.

Democrats create an illusion. They then hope that the people they perpetrated this illusion on won't ever question it. How long has this so called illusion been going on? Or let me put it this way, David Copperfield made the statue of liberty disappear in 1983. Now, that was quite an illusion. However today in 2020, and long before today, anyone can tell you how he did it and thus we know the statue never actually disappeared.

So to sum up, you are saying that democrats are magicians and the people they fool aren't bright enough to see through it...huh. Quite a statement. Because you say, in your own words, they just hope they never have to produce examples. And a "smart" person would ask for examples to get what they bargained for, right? And you want these people to start voting for you and your ilk? Why? You don't think very highly of them, so why should they vote for you? You tell them the color of their skin doesn't matter, but we see it matter all the time. Their names matter when it comes to getting jobs. They are killed at a higher rate by the police, all documented examples supported by data no matter what you claim. So again, why should they vote for you? The person telling them what they are experiencing is all an illusion?

 

Gosh, you have total control over the explanatory variable! Why haven't you run your Excel file?

 

Ever been to a major athletic event, pro or college, and looked around and noticed the make up of the crown attending

 

You are a white immigrant, right?

White privilege is a marketing term. It's not accurate. Why? Because the equality train isn't running anymore. That's what it used to be called. Equal rights. But you see, those who oppose equal rights have ended by saying the legislation passed in the 60's, so the problem was solved. It wasn't.

What we lack in America is equality. White people in this country get treated better by the law. They get treated better by the job market. This is not to say they are GIVEN something extra as the term privilege implies. They just aren't penalized for being white is all. So equality never happened, hence why we are still stuck in this same debate. America has a race problem. It's a given when you look at our history. This shouldn't surprise or confound anyone.

 

Is the Pope Catholic?

 

I don’t need to.
The function needs to equal to 0. It’s like balances - you pile things on both ends and their weight needs to balance.
If I compare native to immigrated blacks, race cannot be used as explanatory variable. Adding 1 gram on each side of the balance will not contribute towards balancing both ends. Therefore, if applied towards general population using race as an explanatory factor will throw off the balance between blacks themselves.
A better explanation would be country of birth, presence of full family, etc.
That means race is not a factor whatsoever. Want me to draw you weights in excel to illustrate?

 

It isn't a function. Tut tut! Its an empirical specification capable of isolating race effects

Isn't it weird that you have strong opinion but can't test the simplest racial hypothesis? Crikey, kids can use Excel!

 

It doesn’t seem like you understand the concept that you yourself brought up.
It takes value A, runs it through natural logarithm and deducts Value B that was ran through exact same natural logarithm. The function looks very pretentious, but all it says is A-B=0. A and B represent common things, like adding 1 to each side for matched education, matched age, etc. the concept fails when A and B represent native and immigrant blacks because they are of the same race and if you use race as a factor you have (A + 1) - (B+1) <>0, as the race didn’t tip the scale. Therefore, one can actually use the exact same model that you brought up to argue the exact opposite point that you are trying to make.
Learn math!


PS, I just realized that I used Blinder-Oaxaca decomposition to prove that racism is not the factor, just like you asked.



You are welcome!

 

It involves running a simple regression and then decomposing estimates and characteristics. It isn't difficult. Why are you ignorant of it?

 

The only way it exists is that all other things being equal, you still won't ever be stopped and questioned for being white. That's it; that's the entire argument.

Nothing to do with rich, poor, trailers or mansions, bad/good childhood, orphans, drug addict parents; none of that is considered part of privilege. ..... it's just that if every other variable was the same, the white guy still does not have to fear being stopped for being white.

One cool tip - in order to understand someone's point of view, it's a requirement that you WANT to understand. If you don't want to understand, just admit you don't want to. Blathering on with lies and nonsense while pretending to understand someone's point of view, just makes you look silly and sad.

 

Cutting out my proof to you and claiming ignorance on my part is very dishonest of you.
Please address my post entirely!