What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

  1. The moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers

    4 vote(s)
    3.6%
  2. Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Impossible to say

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  4. Unjustified although I understand where they're coming from.

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  5. Bunch of racist thugs.

    74 vote(s)
    66.1%
  1. Reasonablerob

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    I must say I abhor them, I think the idea you see one cop use excessive force against a suspect (without any evidence of any racist motivation?) and that somehow justifies looting and burning? What's more their hypocrisy is appalling, if black lives matter why are they not campaigning against black on black violence?
     
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    There's little that I can add to your comment except that I'm surprised and disappointed that they've gotten away with the criminal acts to the extent that they have.
    I don't think that they have the genuine support that the large mobs may indicate because most members of their mobs are simply bored, pampered and ignorant children who crave excitement and attention.

    I live in the Richmond VA area and am also not surprised at the lack of genuine leadership exhibited by our Democratic mayor and governor who are not only pandering to these malevolent punks but cheering them on.

    I hope that in November, people will remember who supported the violent mobs who destroyed their businesses and homes.
     
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    Intention is in right place.
    Systematic racism needs to end.
     
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    Intentions are the paving stones on the road to Hell.
     
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    Only the Black Panthers are more racist. If you took every sentence ever muttered by a black lives matter person, flipped the words white for black or black for white, people would have their heads explode with racism charges, it is a simple test.
     
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    Please precisely define what you mean by "systemic racism" and how does it differ from simple racism.

    I've heard that term along with the buzz words "inclusion", "disenfranchisement" etc repeated over and over again by SOCOBs (Selectively Offended Chronically Outraged Blacktavists) whose true agenda is not equality but rather minority rule.

    Thanks,
     
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    You've heard the term? Have you ever investigated your concerns on it?
     
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    They abhor you and your ilk.
     
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    It's strictly a quasi violent political movement aimed at dissrupting the United States as much as possible. Their own leaders recently admitted to having been trained by hard core radical nation-hating Marxists.
     
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    Where exactly is the systematic racism? How did Barack Obama become president of such a racist country? How did Colin Powell become the chief of staff and then secretary of state? How did Condeleeza Rice succeed him? How do so many black people dominate in fields such as sport and entertainment? HOW is America systematically racist?
     
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    Since you use the term so frequently, I asked you as politely as I could what you mean by "systemic racism" and you answer a question with a question.

    I know the official definition of "systemic" and the definition of "racism" but don't feel that it applies to a country which is 13% Black but yet has so many Blacks in national and local governments.

    As @Reasonablerob noted in his Post #10, Obama became president, Colin Powell and Condeleeza Rice were just a few of the Blacks to hold high ranking political positions. Congress is about 12% Black and is the most racially and ethnically diverse in US history(1).

    Yes, localized racism exists but the SOCOBs* at BLM don't want equality, they want domination.


    * SOCOB: "Selectively Offended Chronically Outraged Blactavist"

    (1). "For the fifth time in a row, the new Congress is the most racially and ethnically diverse ever"
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...he-most-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-ever/
     
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    How. 250+ yrs of progress.
    Pretty systematic if it takes 250 yrs to go from being slaves to pres.
    How many black GOP senators are there?
    12%? Nope. RW systematic racism at work.
     
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    I don't believe you actually care. It's why I asked if you've ever read up on it. Ever hear of the term redlining?
    Where are some of the most impoverished communities.
    If those things you describe are accurate. It's only happened in the last decade or so. Out of 250 yrs.
    Pretty systematic I'd say.

    Systemic. Biases. Discrimination. Built into the system.
     
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    Because they are not "racist thugs", just because the leaders are black. That's a foil to hide who they are. They are "Marxist thugs" who are not speaking for the majority of black communities. They've destroyed a lot of businesses owned by blacks and other minorities in the past 30 days. It's not about "black". It's not about "racism".

     
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    I haven't paid them much attention. But their name implies that only black lives matter and no one else's life does. That perspective of the group is from what I seen widespread. Then there is the violence they have caused, it's a group I intend to keep at arms length.
     
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    BLM is a Fake Roots Democrat Funding Organization exploiting Black's terrible conditions in Democrat cities.

    When Black Lives Matter to Democrats — And When They Don’t.

    Democrats say Black lives matter but it's becoming clear they only matter sometimes, which explains why Democrats blocked Tim Scott's justice reform bill.

    Do Black lives matter to Democrats? As Tim Alberta recently reported, a lot of Black voters think the answer is no. That may explain why the Democrats are blocking the GOP justice reform bill in the Senate: With Black voters already discouraged, Democrats don’t want them to get the idea that Republicans may have something to offer.

    Alberta’s reporting, in Politico, is striking. At the invitation of a local African-American politico, he spent an afternoon with a bunch of middle-class Black voters outside Detroit. He found they were disappointed in the Democrats, thought nothing much had changed for them during the Obama presidency, and expected Trump to win even though they planned to vote for Biden themselves.

    Democrats haven't actually helped Black communities
    As a woman named Ursura Moore observed:

    “Some people thought just because we had a Black president, he was going to make things better for Black people — he was going to free Black prisoners, wipe out Black debt. That was just ignorance. But the disappointment some of us felt with Obama — more so with the Democrat Party —that was real. And it hasn’t gone away. So, people start to wonder whether the outcome even matters. They wonder whether they should bother voting at all.”​

    Eric Benjamin commented:

    “Biden’s a politician, same as the rest of them, same as Trump. But at least with Trump you know where he stands.” I respect that. The Democrats always be acting like we’re friends.”​
     
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    How can you vague claims no one can even define?
     
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    What systemic racism? Be specific. How does a racist organization like BLM stop imaginary racism? That seems rather counter-productive. Liberal thinking is confusing...
     
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    Look up redlining.
     
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    Look up the sheer volume of fake 'hate crimes' reported by the likes of Smollett and others since Trump was elected. The default position in this era is to know its fake nonsense unless proven otherwise, and I've seen zero that have been proven at all in years...
     
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    I have heard for years now that they were never protesting the right way. That they were wrong for protesting in the first place. Their issues were never there. And now what? They make you pay attention to them and address their concerns? People have no one to blame but themselves for the rioting that broke out. Well no that's not true. They can blame the mass defunding of cities and black communities and increased funding for primarily white neighborhoods as a form of ethnic politics that exacerbated race relations in the US for decades now. And now we are finally dealing with the consequences of it as minority votes become more important due to a change in demographics in this country. Which in turn see rioting as a tool for political change because it works.
     
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    I don't approve of the use of intimidation by anyone. That is all BLM does and it is abhorrent.
     
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    ~ As far as BLM - there is an old saying :
    `` The jig is up ´´
     
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    You can only see one cop doing it? You must be blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. BLM is what it is BLM. I know you hate it, I don't care myself. They say they have a beef and I believe them since I can see..
     
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    Agree with the OP, I'll also add that they have set back the actual discussion about police brutality by a decade with their constant baseless accusations of racism.

    This completely hinders any possible progress on the actual issue, which is how to deal with a guy moving his hand to his pocket to grab something that could or could not be a gun, or a teenager pointing a gun at you that could or could not be a toy, without killing them.
     
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