Putin paid bounty money to Talibans who killed American troops

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  1. Phyxius

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    Any happier and he'd piss himself! :roflol:

     
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    Let's hear what Beau thinks:

     
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    Nice pairing of audio and video there...

    Didja see how Junior tried to spin that walk?? He's almost as nutty as his father, but with several more years to get there...

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    Other than the typos and poor punctuation (ignorance a family trait), the thought that Donald Trump Jr ever worked any of the following is completely laughable

    - Night Shift
    - 48 hour shift
    - Third job (a first might be a good start)

    Everybody needs to remember where Trump was coming from.... Not a natural disaster or time spent touring COVID wards at hospitals or meeting with protesters.... Nope, he's leaving a failed rally designed only for his base... or, as Junior calls it, "working my ass off for the American people"

    They couldn't be more deluded if they took classes in the subject..
     
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  4. Andrew Jackson

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    The Story in the OP is The Tip of The Iceberg...

    The picture gets uglier and uglier and uglier...

    Let's talk about Trump and the GOP...

    Seems like too many pieces to all be "coincidence" or "spin" ...


    Jan 1 2005 - Jan 31 2018. Oleg Deripaska helped Vladimir Putin launder money

    Mar 18 2014. Russia invaded Ukraine

    Sep 1 2016. Mitch McConnell refused to sign bipartisan statement on Russian Interference into US elections

    Sep 22 2016. Senator Dianne Feinstein and Congressmen Adam Schiff issued statement warning about Russian effort to influence the U.S. Election

    Nov 10 2016. Obama warned Trump about putting Michael Flynn in a high-level position

    Nov 18 2016. Elijah Cummings warned Mike Pence in a letter about Michael Flynn's foreign lobbying

    Jan 6 2017. The CIA, NSA, FBI, and ODNI concluded that Russia interfered in the 2016 election

    Jan 20 2017. Trump hired Michael Flynn as National Security Adviser

    Jan 20 2017. Michael Flynn messaged business associates that economic sanctions against Russia would be "ripped up" and a business project was "good to go"

    Jan 20 - Feb 7 2017. The Trump Administration worked intensely to lift sanctions on Russia the moment they took office

    Jan 26 2017. Acting Attorney General Sally Yates warned the White House Michael Flynn might be subject to blackmail by the Russians

    Feb 13 2017. Michael Flynn was fired by the Trump Administration

    It now seems the General Flynn was under investigation long before was common knowledge. It would have been impossible for me to know this but, if that was the case, and with me being one of two people who would become president, why was I not told so that I could make a change? - Donald J. Trump, May 17 2019

    May 10 2017. Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister (Lavrov) and ambassador in White House Oval Office meeting

    May 10 2017. Trump told Russian officials he was not concerned with Moscow's meddling in the US election

    Jun 1 2017. Trump and his administration mishandled classified intelligence so frequently that the US had to extract a "highest level source" from within the Kremlin

    Jun 21 2017. The Trump Administration opposed a broad bipartisan Russian sanctions bill because it would prevent the US President from lifting those sanctions

    Apr 19 2018. Rudy Giuliani joined Trump's personal legal team

    May 9 2018 - Jan 18 2019. Florida governor Ron DeSantis met with Lev Parnas six times and his committee received $50,000 from him

    Jun 16 2018. Trump called it "An Incredible Offer" to allow Russia to interrogate American intelligence officers in exchange for FBI questioning of 12 Russian agents for interfering in the 2016 U.S. presidential election

    Jul 4 2018. Seven Republican Congressmen travelled to Russia during the Fourth of July

    Jul 16 2018. Trump sided with Vladimir Putin over the US intelligence community regarding Russia's election interference in the US 2016 election

    Aug 2 2018. 8 US Intelligence Groups warned Russia disrupting the US 2018 midterm elections

    Nov 1 2018 - Ongoing. House Intelligence Ranking Member Republican Devin Nunes was directly involved in the push for Ukraine Biden investigations by Trump associate Lev Parnas

    Feb 25 2019. Trump asked Moscow's advice in dealing with North Korea

    Mar 1 2019. House Intelligence Ranking Member Republican Devin Nunes called off a staff trip to Ukraine when he realized House Intelligence Chair Adam Schiff would be told

    May 30 2019. Mitch McConnell vowed to block election security bills

    Jun 15 2019. Trump accused the NYT for treason for reporting that US escalated counter cyber-attacks on Russia

    Jul 25 2019. Trump asked for a favor from Ukranian President Zelensky as he looked for a White House visit

    Sep 1 2019. Trump associate Lev Parnas, who pushed Ukranian conspiracy, received $1 million from a Russian bank account

    Oct 7 2019. Trump ordered sudden and unexpected withdrawal of American troops from Northern Syria

    Oct 10 2019. Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, associates of Giuliani and Trump, were arrested

    Nov 13 2019. The conspiracy that Ukraine interfered in the US 2016 elections has been thoroughly debunked

    Nov 15 2019. Russia forces took over abandoned U.S. air base in northern Syria

    Dec 2 2019. John Kennedy backed Russian conspiracy theory that Ukraine meddled in the US 2016 election

    Dec 9 2019. Ted Cruz backed Russian consipiracy theory that Ukraine meddled in US 2016 election

    Dec 10 2019. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov visited Oval Office for second time since Russian election interference

    Dec 13 2019. McConnell vows total coordination with White House on Impeachment trial in Senate

    Dec 14 2019. Lindsey Graham backed Russian conspiracy theory that Ukraine meddled in the US 2016 election

    Dec 14 2019. Lindsey Graham gives his word not to be a fair juror in the trial of Donald John Trump's impeachment

    Dec 16 2019. The Trump Administration threatened to veto 2020 spending bill due to language requiring future release of Ukraine aid

    Dec 21 2019. The Trump Administration opposed bipartisan Senate bill countering Russian aggression because the bill required the administration to report Russian election meddling

    Feb 10 2020. Trump's Budget proposals for 2021 contain a 25 percent cut to the European Deterrence Initiative which fights Russian aggression in Eastern Europe

    Feb 15 2020. Pompeo held undisclosed meeting with Russian diplomat

    Just saying...:salute:
     
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    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This walk is entitled "Why, oh why, did I have that fifth Quarter Pounder with cheese?
     
  6. struth

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    it’s a theory that was the motive. it’s a fat trump embarrassed him
     
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    russia doesn’t own are loans
     
  8. Phyxius

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    It's a theory that Fat Trump embarrassed him... [​IMG]
     
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    nope that’s a fact the battle happened.
     
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    And Putin's emotional state is your OPINION.

    This may help:

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    sure but the fact is trump beat his ass

    it’s theory that’s why he allegedly did this. like global warming is a theory
     
  13. Phyxius

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    No, Fat Trump sat at home, eating hamberders, drinking Diet Coke and watching Faux Noise in his soiled Depends. The American military beat their asses.

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    He followed through on Iraq because Iraq at the time wanted us out, due to it being a more unilateral campaign. Afghanistan is still a NATO operation.
     
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    The threat still exists in that region.
     
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    yep and he is their commander and chief that ordered it! the military is once again a bright proud shining machine
     
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    So you are unaware that the threat of terrorists regrouping doesn't exist anymore.
     
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    Trying to completely conquer Afghanistan has proven to be an impossible task throughout history.
     
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    I expect he’ll come out with a tweet excusing putin for this, if he hasn’t already done so.

     
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    Germany doesn't want US troops IN Germany(very similar to Japan actually), we worn out our welcome abroad in many regards. You can thank the "bomb everyone" philosophy for that. As far as these bounties? Definitely upsetting, but it's not new in proxy warfare. That's what the Taliban is, that's what the muhajeeden was.

    It cannot be, per se the reason to cut off all ties(just like Russian interference couldn't be). Both Russia and China are geopolitical foes of the United States. At the same time however, we cannot ignore them. We should blame ourselves for whoring ourselves to the Chinese, and the Chinese were apt enough to take advantage.

    We thought it was the other way around for decades, we thought this out of conceit and bad intel. We have two choices, we can cut ourselves off, or we can engage in a tit-for-tat. If we engage in a tit-for-tat, we invite the cold war again(and it could be hot), if we cut ourselves off, as Democrats love to say: We'll lose influence.

    At the heart of this, is the greater problem: The war on terror, and our absolute misconception of the First Amendment. It does not apply to people abroad, nor is it some qualifier for residency. It is an assurance to the citizens and residents in this country and frankly the founders would be of the opinion that those who cannot abide by the basic premise of America's freedom, equality and the pursuit of happiness shouldn't reside in the union.

    Imagine if we had come to the collective determination that Islam, a tenant that violates the American ideal cannot be allowed inside of our shores. Instead of fruitlessly fighting a "war on terror" to keep them over there, or to "install democracy", we can simply and utterly cut the problem at its source, by banning those who at minimum have affiliated with any group or clergy that is or has affiliated with a terrorist group in the last, say, 25-30 years.


    Our fatal flaw, our interpretation that we are to "accept all", and yet the dichotomy of fighting an enemy that doesn't recognize our values has meant that we cannot fight the war with the same tools, that the enemy possesses. The enemy freely, readily and propagandizes their distinction from the US. We on the other hand, try to accept the enemy.

    The President is absolutely right about this basic fact, and as long as we fight this fact, the enemy can take pot shots at us while we try to convince ourselves "Well, it's not all of them" and yet at the same time somehow keep troops there.
     
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    What threat? I feel perfectly safe from Islamic insurgents here in Denver.
     
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    Which ain't in Afghanistan. One must wonder if the obtuseness is actually feigned...
     
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    Followed through is what we call it now? Had to get down to Syria and draw that red line that stopped the Russians I guess.
     
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    Oh noe? Watching TV and seeing how anarchists, looters, arsonists and other Democrats behave, makes me wonder...
     
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