Why are the COVID-19 spikes in Florida and Texas getting attention but not California?

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  1. Spim

    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is some kind of "wear a mask" promo on tv and radio every 5 minutes. No shortage of pro mask talk. They are laying it on thick.

    Which is fine.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Well, whether that's a national ad or not...
     
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    Nope...that's why Dems are holding a virtual convention
     
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    I wouldn't call it flattening the curve. You peaked out much higher than anyone else in the US.
     
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    That's great news! Saves quite a bit of time me having to look them up for you.

    There are many posts of me supporting the protests. There is a thread completely dedicated to comparing the protests to Trummp's rally as it relates to Covid 19, in which I explain why it's a false comparison. Since you've gotten so good at finding posts, I won't bother to link you to it.

    I was talking about DeSantis. But it's also true for Trump. I meant to say it had nothing to do with the CDC.
     
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    Ads, news broadcasts, morning talk shows, mask comparison graphs. Etc.

    Although I did find it really odd yesterday that they compared four different masks with a sneeze. Particles traveling . Etc
    .. and the one mask they ignored was the paper one that majority of us are using. That's messed up.

    They talk about coughs and sneezes like I'm sneezy mcsneezeface. I haven't coughed or sneezed into my mask once.
     
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    Make sure Joe gets a nametag.
     
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    That was your big reveal? That is just silly. I dont think governor Cuomo is going to be hiring you as his publicist anytime soon.
     
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    Intensive care units in one of the world’s largest medical centers are operating at 102% capacity as coronavirus cases surge in Texas, according to a report Wednesday from Texas Medical Center in Houston.

    An estimated 36% of the center’s 1,330 ICU beds were occupied by COVID-19 patients. The sprawling medical campus reported that there were 480 current patients with the virus in total.

    As the medical center reached capacity, it enacted Phase 2 of a plan to address the surge by making 373 more beds available by reallocating hospital staff and equipment to ICUs in order to take in more patients, the Houston Chronicle reported.

    Texas was one of the first states to push for an aggressive strategy to reopen businesses and activities after quarantine regulations forced a national shutdown. However, Gov. Greg Abbott slowed down some of the state’s reopening plans as coronavirus hospitalizations rose again. Abbott ordered bars to shut down again and called for restaurants to operate at 50% capacity after allowing them to reopen.

    Meanwhile, county and city officials in Texas have began enacting face mask requirements to try to slow the surge.


    Great job opening up early. Dips***s
     
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    I love to give it :-D

    I don't think so.

    First of all, he didn't ban travel from China. He restricted it. And that only because Azar (and probably others) kept insisting. And only after airlines had already cancelled flights anyway. He begrudgingly signed it while at the same time publicly praising China and insisting that "it would go away one day soon" (which he still says). But never said much about the the travel restrictions until he found it to be politically beneficial to him to appear as if it had been his idea. Which it obviously wasn't because Trump has NO ideas.

    I don't know what you mean. Everybody was expecting the virus to hit California hard first. It didn't. Cuomo started acting when the number of cases were no longer "ridiculously few" in NY. But, by then, the virus had already been spreading for at least a month. And he had no way to test them because there were not enough tests available. Even though Trump was saying that there were enough. There were no guidelines, no assistance from the government, no equipment, no supplies... only misinformation. And a President telling people that all they needed to do was take a chemical found in fish tank cleaners.

    Cuomo made the mistake of expecting that if there was really an emergency, the federal government would at least tell them. Nobody thought that Trump would put his political interest before saving lives.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the CDC probably did. The Health Department DEFINITELY did.
     
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    And this means that it's not possible for a political party to capitalise on the pandemic?
     
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    Why did you support mass gatherings in the middle of a pandemic?
     
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    Are you able to support your claim that the Health Department "DEFNITELY did?"
     
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    I don't support mass gatherings in the middle of a pandemic. Describing the BLM protests after the multiple murders of the last few months as simply "mass gatherings" is excusable in your case only because you have no idea whatsoever (nor do we have reason to demand it) of the culture and history of this country as it relates to racism and white supremacists.

    If you see an American feigning not understanding the difference, you can be assured that you are looking at a white supremacist.
     
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    This is who is responsible for NY.
    https://www.health.ny.gov/commissioner/bio/

    https://www.health.ny.gov/

    State government is supposed to do what is best for their state. There is no point having state government if the Federal Government makes all the decisions.
     
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    There is a thread in which the whole story is explained in detail how Azar struggled to get Trump to understand the threat in January. It's by another poster, not by me. But I can't recall who it was. Good opportunity to try your abilities at finding posts.
     
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    We're talking specifically about government departments wanting to have air travel restrictions.
    When you talk about Azar struggling to get Trump to understand the threat in January, is this related to air travel restrictions?
     
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    All this shows is the total number of people who have been tested in Florida. It doesn't show that the rate of testing has increased.
     
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    Sorry, what the hell were they if not mass gatherings?
     
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    That really doesn't sound horrible, I was expecting higher %'s.

    You seem to be shining a positive light on the response then close with dip***s, very confusing
     
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    And where was this information coming from that the virus was "under control?"

    Are you talking about Trump press conferences?
     
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    You mean just like he hasn't BANNED travel from those Muslim majority countries? Yeah alright then. So I assume that you're against the term 'travel BAN.' Although, my guess is that you have more than a few posts on here in which you refer to Trump's policy as a travel BAN, perhaps even a Muslim ban!

    So what? Isn't that the idea of having people like Health Secretaries? I guess Obama just made all of his decisions with no input from others! :roflol:

    So WHAT if he said this?

    Was ANYONE on the other side of the isle saying ANYTHING about travel restrictions back in January? You're not surely saying that he should have restricted travel sooner are you?

    All of the stupid crap that Trump was coming out with at press conferences. It seemed that you were saying that this is where Cuomo got his information from.

    Yes, the CDC certainly seems to have dropped the ball on this.

    So then why the hell did Cuomo thank Trump for assistance, along with a bunch of other Democratic governors? If there were indeed, "no guidelines, no assistance from the government, no equipment, no supplies... only misinformation", then it would be a bit odd to be thankful for that, wouldn't you say?

    Tell them WHEN? Is there an argument that the Federal government should have declared an emergency sooner?
     
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    How does it have nothing to do with the CDC when they have specific advice on masks?
     
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    Already at 102% capacity at one of the worlds largest hospitals and you think that’s good? They are dips***s because all this could have been avoided if they weren’t so arrogant and reopened in an intelligent way.
     

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