Is USA 2020 a Free Nation?

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Modern American Society is

  1. Free

    7 vote(s)
    50.0%
  2. Authoritarian

    6 vote(s)
    42.9%
  3. Totalitarian

    1 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. CCitizen

    CCitizen Well-Known Member

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    Thousands of people are being fired even for slight disagreements with The Left. In USA 2020, many more people are afraid to voice their opinions then in USSR 1980.
     
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    That kinda goes moreso to labor protections yes? If you don’t have an union to represent you, you can get fired for pretty much anything. That though can be seen as a form of authoritarianism which goes to the OPs point. Now if you want to know if the US is an authoritarian country, there are lots of metrics we can use. I like polity but that’s because I’m a comparativist. Since 2016 the polity score in the US has decreased to around 7.6 I believe. 6 is the marker of a democracy.
     
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    I am not a Conservative nor a Liberal. I agree with Liberals on Labor Protection.
     
  4. CCitizen

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    Many on the Left now are Totalitarian

     
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    So why are the left totalitarian?
     
  6. CCitizen

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    Totalitarian Right has been almost completely defeated. The Nazis and Old Democrats are almost non-existent.

    Totalitarian Left is stronger then ever.
     
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    Compared to most countries yes we are a free nation.
     
  8. CCitizen

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    In USSR 1980, criticism of Communist Party was much more tolerated then criticism of Leftist Ideology in USA 2020.
     
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    Commies aren't as sensitive and fragile as our leftist neighbors.
     
  10. CCitizen

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    Not really. In 1929-1953, USSR was as Totalitarian as Leftists in Western World 2020.

    PS. Stalin had great faults and great virtues. He did the most of any mortal to defeat Nazis. Many Old Testament Kings had faults and virtues.
     
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    ...
    hahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaha

    I needed that laugh. No seriously, why are the left totalitarian?
     
  12. CCitizen

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    Generally I do not respond to mockery.
     
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    I'm pretty confident in my belief that most modern communists outside the United States are far less traumatized by gender specific pronouns than our skinny jean hipsters who have degrees in lesbian Basket weaving and Gender Studies.
     
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    If your post is a mockery of facts on the ground? I’m going to laugh. As a simple matter of fact right wing terrorism in the US is a much bigger problem than left wing terrorism. It’s a simple numbers game. Nothing more. Nothing less.
     
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    Where are these imaginary right wing terrorists? Ive only seen the left burning, looting, beating people who disagree with them, getting people fired for perceived insults and trying to erase history. The right has been largely quiet. Keep pushing though... Its not going to be pretty if the largely silent and highly angry majority decides weve had enough of the bullshit.
     
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    I congratulate you on our return to civilization. You’ve missed a lot! For years the right wing have been conducting terrorist attacks. You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t look it up. I’m on my phone. Dylan roof is my go to example. But there have been several high profile attacks in recent years.
     
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    they were all left wing, timothy mcveigh was the only one with advanced tactical combat experience and white.
     
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    This is hilarious. We have mass evidence of left wing terrorism with cities burning and you have is a couple lone wolf wack jobs. Try again.
     
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    Rioting isn’t terrorism.

    FBI have finally noted that right wing terrorism is a thing. There are lots of people who have weighed in on this and pointed out that there are more examples of right wing terrorism than radical Islamic terrorism.
     
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    Ok, now I just can't possibly take you seriously.
     
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    It’s a simple numbers difference. There are more examples of right wing domestic violence than domestic radical Islamic extremism violence.
     
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    Thousands?

    You have any evidence of thousands being fired on these grounds?
     
  23. liberalminority

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    rioting is terror, the wuhan china flu is terror

    they are the same as radical democrats, media, and hollywood radicalising left wing terror. tucker carlson is the rare exception for media.
     
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    Totalitarianism and Authoritarianism involve government force. If my private company fires me for going on a neo-Nazi tirade, that isn't "totalitarianism" or "authoritarianism." That's them exercising their private rights.
     
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    Of course actual Hate Speech is a fireable offense. But if someone is fired for a political opinion which is not Hate Speech, then it should be regarded as a great wrong. If many people are being fired for reasonable opinions disagreeing with the Left, we are living under Leftist Corporate Tyranny.

    If someone is fired from a state, city, or federal job for an opinion which is not Hate Speech, they may have a First Amendment claim.

    Conservatives and some Independents should understand that we are living under Leftist Corporate Tyranny. We are not living in a Free Society.
     
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