30-year-old dies after 'COVID party' thinking virus was a 'hoax'

. . . except to try to make himself look better. He clearly takes the COVID numbers personally. He's already publicly questioned the data and keeps (untruthfully) claiming that the current spike is simply due to increased testing.

Keep in mind we are dealing with someone who thinks it doesn't count as a lie to lie about numbers -- that doing so is simply "truthful exaggeration"

 

"A 37-year-old Ohio man died from coronavirus after slamming 'hype' over pandemic on Facebook"

https://www.insider.com/ohio-man-veteran-died-coronavirus-mask-facebook-posts-2020-7

"He also, however, expressed regret that Rose's Facebook posts were circulating online."

 

The CDC is not a scientific organization. They're a government agency. Try to understand the difference.

In other words, they make an assumption about what the number of deaths should be and then compare that to the number of actual deaths.

That's called an "estimate", in case you were wondering.

Appeals to authority are a logical fallacy.

I'm sure suicides and drug overdoses will have contributed to some extent - and of course you don't care about any of that - but there are several other variables that need to be considered as well.

For example, we need to account for delayed or deferred medical treatments. We know thousands of Americans delayed or deferred medical treatments and doctors appointments due to the hysteria surrounding coronavirus. How many "excess deaths" did that cause? We simply do not know.

By the way, you're aware that suicides are only one possible byproduct of economic distress and social isolation, right? A guy who loses his job and then has a fatal heart attack due to the increased stress is also a victim of the lock down. But there is no test you can do to determine that someone died from the stress of losing their job or being socially isolated for days or weeks at a time, so it doesn't really show up in the statistics. Yet any fool can see that this has to be happening to one degree or another.

If you support policies that suspend the civil liberties of millions of Americans, then you are a tyrant.

Why do you keep acting like increased suicides are the only potential health-related consequence of economic distress and social isolation?

I wouldn't go that far. But you have to be pretty blind in order to believe that there isn't a concerted and organized effort by powerful individuals and institutions to remove Trump from the presidency. And it's not only Trump-supporting robots who think that. Many liberals and libertarians have pointed this out as well.

 

you kidding, this is the same guy that tried to cover up for his mistake about the weather

 

The article says the patient was "unidentified", so I'm not sure how you could know what he was posting on his Facebook.

In any case, his Facebook postings don't have anything to do with his alleged last words.

Clearly, you are grasping at straws in order to sustain what is obviously a fake story.

 

What makes you think I care about Fox News?

 

maybe you don't

 

after all his facebook postings, I bet towards the end he probably did think he made a mistake, seems logical that he might, don't you think?

 

think the poster was refering to this

"Trump says coronavirus will 'miraculously' be gone by April ‘once the weather warms up’"

https://fox59.com/news/national-wor...-gone-by-april-once-the-weather-warms-up-tmw/

 

A increase in testing is going to bring the cases up, how is that hard to believe? I don't think that is the ONLY reason we are seeing case spikes but it is a partial reason. I live in AZ and it was impossible to get a test for a long time, I think we were ranked as one of the worst in testing. Now, there is a huge amount of tests we're doing so obviously the case numbers are going to rise. That being said the death rate is down. It's miraculous that suddenly the death rates of heart attacks, strokes, etc just pretty much disappeared.

Trump is not the only one questioning the data, the deaths have been counted as people that died WITH Covid-19 not FROM Covid-19. Also, probable cases have been counted as confirmed cases in some states, faulty tests that are false positives, if a person tests positive multiple times its been counted as a case..etc..

It's not JUST Trump questioning the data, a lot of people are..

 

Well in all fairness, while that was obviously not accurate. A lot of people thought that, as viruses typically die off in hotter weather. So he made an inaccurate statement, so have many of the "experts."

 

That much isn't hard to believe, but even the positive cases per test are going up. We know, for a fact, that infections are going up. It isn't just, or even primarily, due to more tests

The death rate is going back up. It lags behind cases. We've always known this. And, again, based on excess death counts, we can't consider this a mere coincidence.

And all of those people are just as mistaken as the president is. Faulty negative tests are much, much more common. And excess death counts shows us we are likely underestimating tests, not overestimating.

 

Fake Data = Fake Science = Fake News

 

congrats, I will take that as an answer... so tired of people defending Trump no matter what, yes, Trump can make mistakes, in fact he makes a lot of them

 

Fake responses = inability to address the facts and simply copy/pasting the usual false accusations instead.

 

"Experts" lie like rugs - especially in election years.

"Florida health officials appear to have inflated recent record coronavirus case numbers there by as much as 30%, according to an analysis of data released by the state's Department of Health."
JUST THE NEWS, Data suggest Florida's record-breaking coronavirus days may have been inflated by as much as 30%, The state appears to be posting backlogged cases as if they occurred on the days in question., By Daniel Payne, July 10, 2020.
https://justthenews.com/politics-po...ord-breaking-coronavirus-days-may-have-been-0

 

That one we can agree on, for sure. He even hedged his words a little with "some people say" with regards to this. I would have preferred more caution from the President, but he was going with realistic info at the time.

 

Yet another content empty reply. Evidence base responses are far more persuasive.

"Two of those data options are "case date" and "event date." The state in a Department of Health document defines the case date as the "date used to create bar chart in the Dashboard," while the "event date" is defined as the "date symptoms started, or if that date is unknown, date lab results were reported to the DOH."

That subtle distinction means that many cases posted to the dashboard may not meaningfully align with the date on which they were posted. Users may thus be misled into believing that case dates on the chart represent timely data, recent cases from which current trends may be reliably derived. However, charted case dates may in fact represent "events" — positive tests or illness-onset dates — that came weeks or even months before."
JUST THE NEWS, Data suggest Florida's record-breaking coronavirus days may have been inflated by as much as 30%, The state appears to be posting backlogged cases as if they occurred on the days in question., By Daniel Payne, July 10, 2020.
https://justthenews.com/politics-po...ord-breaking-coronavirus-days-may-have-been-0

 

No evidence was provided in the post I responded to. None. Consider your own advice.

Again, I'm primarily concerned with the death rate myself, and evidence says we are likely undercounting that.

 

They don't? His FB postings show his attitude and guess what? He DIED of his attitude

YOU are grasping at straws...but then you...like he...think this is a hoax.

I'm sure at some point you'll just stop posting when you get this

 

The still thinking Left knows that the CDC is just another Fake Science org.

"For much of February, the CDC kept a tight grip on who should be tested for the coronavirus, a strategy that has been criticized by epidemiologists for limiting the ability to track the spread of the disease.

In a Feb. 19 presentation to state health officials, the CDC described the definition of a person who ought to be tested: You had to have had close contact with someone confirmed to have COVID-19, or to have traveled from China and then had respiratory symptoms and a fever at the same time.

However, the CDC’s own guidance from a month prior, distributed to the states on Jan. 17, had a footnote that said that “fever may not be present in some patients,” such as people who had taken fever-lowering medications, according to one of the documents obtained by ProPublica. That caveat was not on the slides presented to the states in mid-February."
PROPUBLICA, "SERIES: CORONAVIRUS, Internal Emails Show How Chaos at the CDC Slowed the Early Response to Coronavirus, The CDC fumbled its communication with public health officials and underestimated the threat of the coronavirus even as it gained a foothold in the United States, according to hundreds of pages of documents ProPublica obtained., By Caroline Chen, Marshall Allen and Lexi Churchill March 26, 2020.
https://www.propublica.org/article/...-cdc-slowed-the-early-response-to-coronavirus

 

The death rate should concern you, but your reply is data free.

 

Everyone knows by now that the DP/CCP Wuhan China Corona Virus Pandemic will be dropped by the Fake News MSM and its ilk in 11/20 right after the election.

 

If only he had been wearing a BLM T-shirt.

 

I just talked to a friend this morning and heard some interesting, but not surprising information. He is the head life guard for the county and thus works closely with other medics and ambulance personnel. They tell him that lately, EVERY patient they bring is is categorized as Covid, test or no test.

Plandemic and financial incentives to cook the books.