St. Louis couple charged for pulling guns at protest

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  1. Denizen

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    Another loss for hate and bigotry and a loss for Dopey Donald Trump who supported these crazy gun-toting bigots.

    These crazies, Mark and Patricia McCloskey, are lucky they didn't start a shooting conflict.

    The conservative world will react with alarm at the prospect of further restraint against the use of guns in public.

    “It is illegal to wave weapons in a threatening manner — that is unlawful in the city of St. Louis,”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/20/st-louis-couple-charged-guns-373517

     
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    Are you celebrating?
     
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    Yea, peaceful entry onto private property does not warrant the rights of the 2nd amendment.
     
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    ... the exposure of crazies?
     
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    What about the armed black guys who had a check point?
     
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    Commonly-owned private property? No. Had those protesters threatened their household in any way, I would say they were within their rights to brandish their guns.
     
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    So for over a month a couple comes home, turns on the TV and sees riots across the country. Anything that's nice is being destroyed, anything of value is being looted, anything that will burn is being set on fire and people are targeted for beatings based on their race. Now the mob breaks into their property and they have a nice home with things of value that will burn and they belong to the race that's targeted for beatings.

    Now two things can happen, they can stand brave and protect their property and themselves, or they can cower and run. Since we already know you think they're wrong for protecting their property and lives, then what you would probably do is obvious.

    Did you ever think that projecting a strong image prevented someone from getting killed and property being looted and burned? This is what is known as a deterrent.

    And now we all can openly see what selective and raced based prosecutions look like.

    PS, and why would they start a shooting conflict? Was the other side armed? If so, then the McCloskey's were even more right in what they did.
     
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    You celebrate trespassers and deplore self-defense. It isn't hard to figure out here. Private property means NOTHING to leftists. Defending it in their view deserves punishment.
     
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    The governor vowed to pardon them, thank God there is 1 who is sane.
     
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    "Another loss for hate and bigotry" Really?

    Protecting your property is hate and bigotry...why? In what country do you live?
     
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    Breaking the law deserves punishment.
     
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    Defending property is not breaking the law. The DA pimped justice in the name of his OWN self-preservation against an out of control racist mob. Any decent judge would dismiss with prejudice.
     
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    Fourth thread on this topic. Catch up.

    Maybe you missed this,
    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/07/19/missouri-mark-parson-pardon-mccloskeys/
     
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    They broke no laws. They were threatened and on their own private property. No laws were broken.

    Without their guns they most likely would've been attacked and beaten at minimum.

    Also, this is absolutely not a loss for trump or the right. This is a loss for the left. This makes them look like tyrants in the eyes of about 80% of the country.
     
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    What about the rioters across the country?

    And while you say breaking the law deserves punishment, your side wants to empty prisons and ignore the crimes of illegals.

    Selective rules, two playbooks, double standards and total hypocrisy.
     
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    Governor Parson states he will pardon the McCloskey’s “IF” convicted. St. Louis has had 135 murders since the beginning of the year and only 20% have resulted in arrests by the DA. That’s pathetic. 118 murders of blacks in St Louis during the last 6 months have gone unsolved.
    Black Lives Don’t Matter
     
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    I realize this is merely the actions of the DA, and that the Trump Administration and several Republicans have protested but this brings up the very point that I said: Had the state governors restored order, had the mayors enforced the common defense to which we are entitled, this couple wouldn't have had to take arms for themselves.

    The collective failure of our entire government system to protect we the people, means that the federal Republic wit large is finished. We are right back where we were with King George. Our rights are unequal to the preferred savages on the streets.

    I peaceably through this forum, protest my government and grievances that we US Citizens deserve protection via both the first amendment and the Fourth. If the government cannot assure the safety and protection of citizens who are neither protesting nor rioting then there's no point to citizenship in the country.

    The basic protection of our civil rights is an obligation, not a chore. It's mandatory, not optional. I beseech this DA to actually follow the law, drop her nonsensical charges and I beseech this entire government to rectrify the wrongs of violence against the US Citizens of this Republic.
     
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    I encourage you to rush your evidence to law enforcement authorities.
     
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    Yes. My life matters.
     
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    Where did I say I agree with that. The poster said the Trump administration is a racist mob. I agree with that. Every piece of **** in his administration is third-tier trash because nobody with any intelligence wants to work for him.

    Regarding this couple, they didn't have reasonable apprehension for their safety. Therefore, they didn't have cause to brandish their weapons. We can't just have people brandishing their guns whenever they feel threatened. There has to be a reasonable threat of danger. Protestors knocking down a gate to the property is not enough. Had the protesters actually threatened the couple, then it would have been okay to brandish their guns.
     
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    The sounds in your head are not me. Its cognitive dissonance trying to awaken you to the principles of humanity.
     
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    It's a fraud to call breaking and entering and threatening bodily harm, a 'protest'.

    I fear for my country.
     
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    It's more than enough in my view. We cannot wait for mobs to act violently for people to express the right to their self-defense. Such a weak interpretation of self defense would allow(and already has allowed the death of an 8 year old child) the violence to continue unabated.

    The reality is, we are powerless to the violent revolutionaries prodding the streets of America. They can crowd cars, pull people out of their cars and assault and maim us and we're left to just take it.

    Government and the law has abandoned us.
     
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    Smear
     
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    You said you agree with him. You didn't specify which post so I just assumed you agreed with the OP since it was from him.

    Yes they most certainly were in danger and yes they were threatened. A mob breaking through your gate into your private property is a threat. The reason it didn't go further was BECAUSE THEY HAD THE MEANS TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. I know that's impossible for a lefty to understand so I suspect you won't respond with anything that will be worth any more of my time.....so good day.
     
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