Legal Docs: St. Louis Prosecutor Tampered With Evidence In McCloskey Gun Case

An accomplice to his wife?

 

It appears, it was more than that. Lots more.They were threatening homeowners.

 

How bout pointing gun at someone who is unarmed and standing on the sidewalk after just braking you gate?

 

I don't care if a person is unarmed or not, if they forcibly enter a property that's literally home invasion. In other words, it's these mobsters who committed a crime by entering without permission and in a sane world THEY would be prosecuted. We are not in a sane world however. We're in a world where an 8 year old kid gets murdered and we carry on.

BLM/ANTIFA are criminal organizations who seek to terrorize the population wit large and have recently taken tactics such as crowding roads and forcing drivers into unhealthy dilemmas and a risk for their own lives.

The dude with the workable gun didn't brandish his weapon, his wife brandished her non-lethal weapon(Whether someone knows its non-lethal or not, doesn't make a difference.) But the fact that it is non-lethal destroys their case(that and the tampering with evidence thing.). There's no difference from a non-lethal "weapon", to a fence that says "Do not enter, house has a pit bull."

Yes, I'm equating what they did to a guard dog. And so did the rioters, who understood that they had better stay away. Everyone was safe, because of those preventive actions.

 

If they threaten you , yes you can.

They did nothing illegal. As bad as you'd like to paint the white folks defending their property as the criminals here, you can't. You're going to fail no matter which direction/excuse you try to bring up.

But I'd like you to keep trying.......

 

Your statement would be good and true if you add ......after " political activists" .....the words..."of any political stripe."

 

I had said in one of the many posts on this subject that I believed that these two gebonees were grandstanding. If it is true that one or both of the weapons displayed was inoperative then it proves that indeed Bonnie and Clyde of St. Louis are bonafide soon to be certified as official Idiots.

 

Still trying to race bait I see...

If you watch the videos, zero threats were levied until after weapons were introduced, the husband even admitted as such in interviews — which makes the couple the aggressor.

 

Stepping on a lawn is home invasion... that’s interesting...

 

They can carry their weapons on their property. Once they are threatened, they can point their guns.

Your knowledge of gun laws is severely lacking here.

And there's no race baiting, I just know this thread wouldn't exist and the left would be ignoring this story if they weren't white.

 

Actually, I'm not trying to defend anyone. They have been charged - I'm trying to understand THEIR defense.

 

They did storm their home when they broke down the gate and entered private property. You might as well be saying....well, they were only in the living room, but I would draw the line if they entered the bedroom.

 

When on thier own property...yes.

 

It happens all the time.

Many of them are shameless.

 

I would draw the line had they entered or even attempted to enter their home. Try again

Not that it matters, video shows the damage to the gate was done when the protestors were leaving as it was open when they entered.

 

Next time someone walks on your grass or driveway, pull a weapon on them and let us know how it works out for you. Some of you would be dangerous in society if you actually believed the bs you spew.

 

If a mob of people have broken down your gate and are on your property, and they won't get off...

It can of course depend on the state and legal jurisdiction.


I personally believe the wife was wrong to actually point her pistol at the protesters. But whether it should be illegal is another matter.

Keep in mind that her pistol, the pistol that actually got pointed at them, was not actually loaded, and the husband did not aim his rifle at the crowd.

I certainly believe that what the husband did was perfectly justified.

 

My brother and father has done exactly that. And cops didn't do a damn thing. Like it or not, people are allowed to point guns at people that they feel is a threat.

 

This is probably one of those things that could depend very much on what part of the country you are in.

Both conservatives and progressives are oftentimes very ignorant about how certain things are different in different places. It's easy for people to assume everywhere in the country operates the same way as the place where they live and know.

For your information, there are many conservative rural parts of the country where a property owner could shoot a trespasser on their property if they felt the least bit threatened, and most likely no questions would be asked. It is even common to see signs on large parcels of property to this effect.

I know Colorado was like that in the 90s, if you went outside the big cities.

Keep in mind Missouri is in "flyover country", even though St. Louis is extremely blue.

 

A loud angry mob that has broken through your neighborhood gate IS A THREAT!!! What is so hard to understand? Do you know what a gated community is? You can’t loiter. You can’t sell stuff door to door. You can’t hang marketing material on door or windows or place anything in mailboxes. If you don’t live there you are a threat.

I live in one. The reason I live in one is partially for the reasons above. If a mob has broken through the guard gate then they have proven they're willing to be violent and it’s just a single rock throw away from looting.

And why the hell should a home owner have to wait until a mob is damaging their property to act? This isn’t a public street. You are NOT bound to retreat into your own home to feel safe. You are allowed to stand on your own property and MO law states it very clearly. She was pointing an inoperable gun at a threatening mob. That is legal!!! She could NOT hurt them just like you claim they couldn’t hurt the home owners by yelling or “walking on a sidewalk”. The issue here is that it’s the home owners sidewalk in their neighborhood and a mob is not legally allowed to be there. And as with nearly all these sorts of incidents it would NOT occur if your so called “victims” were doing the right thing in the first place. Just like all the “racist” cops wouldn’t be hurting anyone of those they’re hurting were doing the right thing in the first place. Can’t get shot by someone on their property if you weren’t on their property in the first place. Can’t get shot by cops during an arrest if you didn’t break the law in the first place. And don’t try to justify systemic racism with extreme outliers and exceptions which is what BLM is based on. Exceptions and conjecture. Perception. NOT the rule.

 

What I said and meant. ".... rabid biased political activists" does not discriminate or exclude anyone.

 

Generally speaking, no, you can't. You can't walk up to somebody in walmart and pull a gun on them. That's not what happened here though. But the video never shows him pointing it at anybody. As far as the wife is concerned, it depends on when she was threatened as to whether she committed a crime. Even then, it's easily argued that the size of the mob and the fact that they'd already broken into private property was a threat.

Now, is there any actual evidence that they committed a crime? Or are you just spewing your usual highly partisan bullshit because as a lefty you are duty bound to defend the mob? (actually we all know this is true it's just funny as hell to watch you excuse the inexcusable).

And your personal attacks are pure ****ing class.....and total bullshit. You've been proven wrong by a LOT of people in this thread so I'm done with your partisan nonsense.

 

Correct, as to whether she committed a crime, it will likely be down to a judge or jury to determine that as there ate too many factors that are not directly addressed by the current law — ie. does common property or community areas allow one to protect, did the protestors make threats prior to weapons being introduced (if not they are the aggressors and castle doctrine no longer protects them), does a gate that appears to be vandalized later justify deadly force, does brandishing an inoperable weapon change any of this...

Regardless the woman shows zero muzzle or trigger discipline — she needs a firearm safety class before she accidentally injures someone.

As are yours, I give what I get, nothing more — nothing less. If you want a cordial discussion perhaps cease with the personal attacks on your end and you will likely notice an improvement.

The hurt feefees button is at the bottom right corner of every post however.

 

I know right? It's like these folks were intentionally trying to incite more riots by making unlawful BLMs folks shoot them...

 

It's amazing to me, as a gun owner, that no one ever taught you not to point a gun at someone the way that this woman did. In fact, it isn't just amazing, it is completely unbelievable. It's virtually impossible. She fanned the barrel across a crowd, FINGER ON THE TRIGGER. There is no world in which any responsible gun owner can excuse her action here. At least her husband kept his finger off the trigger, from what I've seen.