Newly Declassified Documents undercuts Steel Dossier

oh right, the right only believes foxnews......

"Conservative website funded initial Fusion GPS Trump opposition effort"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/co...ed-initial-fusion-gps-trump-opposition-effort

 

It took you five posts to simply say 'you're wrong and I'm right'. That's exactly what this post is saying "you're right and I'm wrong" But in you're flaming dishonesty YOU omit 95% of my original post'' and never respond to it. So far you have not contested that the Steele Document meant .05% of arrests indictments and charges.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-...ut-carter-page-dossier-secret-warrant-n893666
The heavily redacted documents released Saturday comprise an application to, and subsequent renewals by, judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing the FBI to investigate Page, a foreign policy aide to the Trump campaign. But it's already been established by the House Intelligence Committee that the Russia investigation began after the FBI learned that another campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, had been approached by a Russian agent. The agent told Papadopoulos the Russians had incriminating information about Hillary Clinton, including emails, according to court documents.. Papadopoulos then mentioned to an Australian diplomat that the Russians had "dirt" on Clinton, the Australians contacted the U.S. government, and the FBI began to take a look. The so-called dossier formed only a smart part of the evidence used to meet the legal burden of establishing "probable cause" that Page was an agent of Russia.



Let me know when you are ready to respond to my original Posts
Here it is:

1. From my post 86" Please show us the FBI document the right wing writer Sperry is referring to which is the heart of your post. We have no way to know how right wing Sperry is paraphrasing from the document. Also the Steele doc had very little to do with most of the findings in the Russia investigation but you keep hammering away at this. None of the facts below came from the Steele Doc but you want to pretend they did. This list comes from Intelligence investigations"
   
   We both know there is no way the Steele Document had much to do with all these charges and arrests in the list below.. Most of these came from separate findings by Intelligence Agencies. Trump the coward has failed to prove his fake news charges with evidence. which is what your doing.
   
   
   
2. 
   
   https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...over-100-contacts-with-russians-before-taking
   
   The Hill
   Trump and associates had over 100 contacts with Russians before taking office.
   
   " President Trump and at least 17 of his campaign officials and advisers had contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks or their intermediaries before his inauguration, according to an analysis published by The New York Times on Saturday.
   
   
   Then-candidate Trump had at least six contacts before the Republican National Convention in July 2016, according to the analysis. One contact included signing a letter of intent to develop Trump Tower in Moscow, the Times reported.
   
   
   Aras Agalarov, a Russian billionaire who hosted a Miss Universe pageant in Moscow with Trump, reached out to Trump several times before the Republican National Convention. Agalarov's son, Emin Agalarov, reportedly also contacted Trump on multiple occasions
   
   
   Aras Agalarov sent a letter to Trump shortly after the primaries began expressing “great interest” in his campaign, the Times noted.
   
   
   Trump, according to the analysis, began denying his interactions with Russian nationals shortly after accepting the Republican presidential nomination.
   
   
   The Times analysis was conducted by compiling the newspaper’s reporting, documents submitted to Congress and court records related to special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia's election interference and potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.
   
   
   At least 10 other associates were told about the interactions but did not have any themselves, the newspaper noted.
   
   
   The president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., had at least 17 contacts with Russians and a Russian intermediary, including arranging the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting.
   
   
   Trump Jr.'s contacts also included exchanging private Twitter messages with WikiLeaks, the organization that published troves of stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign that U.S. intelligence officials later said were pilfered by Russian agents.Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and a White House senior adviser, had at least six contacts, according to the Times. Those
   
   
   contacts included meeting with a Russian ambassador during Trump's transition and attending the Trump Tower meeting.
   
   
   Roger Stone, the longtime GOP operative who worked as an informal adviser on the campaign, appears to have had the most contacts, according to the Times.
   
   
   Stone had at least 18 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks before Trump took office, the Times noted.
   
   
   He was arrested by the FBI on Friday after being indicted on seven counts in connection with Mueller's investigation: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements and one count of witness tampering.
   
   
   The indictment states that a senior Trump campaign officials was "directed to contact Stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information Organization 1 had regarding the Clinton Campaign," an apparent reference to WikiLeaks.
   
   
   "Stone thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by Organization 1," the document reads.
   
   
   He was released on Friday on a $250,000 signature bond and vowed not to testify against Trump.
   
   
   Stone is the sixth associate of Trump to be charged in Mueller’s expansive probe.
   
   
   Others include Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen, adviser George Papadopoulos, ex-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former national security adviser Michael Flynn.
   
   
   According to the Times, Cohen is reported to have had at least 17 contacts, including being significantly involved in the plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and meeting with a Russian oligarch on another matter.
   
   
   Papadopoulos, the analysis found, had at least 12 contacts, while Manafort and Flynn are reported to have had six and five contacts, respectively.
   
   
   The Times cited Papadopoulos's multiple contacts with Russian operatives who sought to arrange meetings with Trump or his campaign and Russian President Vladimir Putin or Putin's staff.
   
   
   Manafort, who also reportedly attended the Trump Tower meeting, had multiple contacts with Konstantin Kilimnik, a business associate connected to Russian intelligence, during his tenure on the Trump campaign.
   
   
   Following Trump's election and in the lead-up to his inauguration, Flynn had a number of conversations with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States at the time, the Times noted."
   
   Once again the right wingers are going after the questionable Steele Document and pretending it is the only reason for the Mueller investigation. Pure B.S.

 

Was faked up Crooked Hillary garbaged laundered through the FISA court as a pretext for Biden/Obama/Clinton to illegally spy on the Trump campaign. You bought it hook line and sinker, and it turns out, all you guys were wrong the whole time, we were right the whole time, the Fake News Media was pushing lies and Trump was telling the truth in his denials. The FBI even forged a document to mislead the FISA court by concealing that Carter Page was a CIA asset.

A salacious Clinton-campaign product was the driving force behind the Trump–Russia investigation.​

This bald-faced lie came from Steele. It was concealed from the FISA court that Crooked Hillary was behind Steele’s work. It was concealed from the court that Steele’s bald-faced lies had never been verified.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/carter-page-fisa-applications-fbi-steele-dossier/

 

Yes, the Crooked Hillary Pack of lies the Corrupt Biden/Obama administration laundered through the FISA Court so they could spy on the Trump campaign, Transition Team and then the Obama Leftovers in the Deep State coordinated with the Fake News Media to fail to drive him from office, after failing to fix the election.

That was the pretext for spying on Trump. You get one FISA warrant, and with the 3 hop rule, that gives you spy authority on thousands of Americans. With the FISA warrant they can search ALL of Carter Page's electronic communications. Hop 2 allows them to search ALL the electronic communications of everyone that Carter Page has electronically communicated with. Hop 3 allows them to search ALL the electronic communication of everyone they have communicated with. One FISA warrant allowed the corrupt Biden/Obama Administration coordinating with Crooked Hillary, to throw a blanket over thousands of Americans and the entire Trump world.

In order to get these powerful spying authorities on a US Citizen, the FBI claimed to have solidly verified information that Carter Page was in an Espionage Conspiracy with the Russian Government. They lied, they even forged a document. They expected Crooked Hillary to win and that nothing would ever see the light of day.... ooops!

They lied to the FISA Court, because had they told the FISA court the truth, that Crooked Hillary had purchased 3rd and 4th hand Russian Gossip, that was unverified, and that Carter Page was actually a CIA asset assisting them in developing intelligence on the Russians, they would have never granted the spying authority.

 

Yes, Crooked Hillary's Pack of lies laundered by the corrupt Obama/Biden Administration into illegal spying authority against Trump.

A classified memo released after reviewing FISA applications (the memo was finally declassified and publicized over the objections of the FBI) shows that the bulk of the first Carter Page FISA application consists of allegations against Page that the FBI got from Steele and were outlined in the Steele dossier. The application contains NO additional information corroborating the dossier lies against Mr. Page. Comey said that the bureau had relied on the credibility of Steele, not the verification of Steele’s sources. As late as June 2017, Comey finally admitted that information in the Steele dossier was “salacious and unverified.”

The initial warrant was in Oct/16, renewed in Dec/16, renewed March/17, renewed June/17, and the whole time, based on nothing more than this pack of lies Hillary purchased from 3rd and 4th hand Russians of a pack of lies known as the Steele Dossier.

Are you the only person in America still fooled? Even McCabe admitted to Congress that they could verify nothing more than that Page traveled to Russia in July 2016 — which was no secret. Even Steele admitted in British legal proceedings that nothing was “verified.”

The credibility of the FBI has been destroyed for failing to corroborate Steele.

They lied to the Court, used suspect sourcing and multiple hearsay. If they had solid evidence of Steele’s bald-faced lies he sold Crooked Hillary they would have used that evidence as their probable cause showing against Page, but instead, they used the crap dossier because, as McCabe told the House Intelligence Committee, without it they would have had no chance of persuading a judge that Page was a clandestine agent, and they wouldn't have been granted the authority to illegally spy on the Trump Campaign.

 

The bag of lies has fallen apart, and apparently you are the only one still in the dark. You swallowed 4 years of lies. The Biden/Obama Administration, while coordinating with Crooked Hillary, lied to the FISA court and failed to fix the election, and then failed to drive Trump from office.

These FISA judges are rather incurious as well. They seem to just rubber stamp whatever pile of crap is placed before them. The FISA applications used to illegally spy on Trump are so shoddy that the judges who approved them should have to account for themselves. Hopefully US Attorney Durham will give us further information when his report comes out.

4 years ago, none of us knew how crooked and corrupt the Obama/Biden Administration was, sure, we all knew that Crooked Hillary was completely untrustworthy, but, we didn't know how corrupt the Obama/Biden Whitehouse was. We would have never believed that the FBI would go off the reservation like they did, but, even if they did, we believed, that the "Justice" Department would NEVER permit the submission to the FISA court of uncorroborated allegations;

Well, we were naive, no longer. Well, actually you are still guzzling the kool-aid. The FBI presented a pack of lies, and it was quickly laundered into an approval to spy on political opponents by the FISA court.

This is why Jonathon Turley calls this Way Bigger Than Watergate. Apparently you are the only person in the country still in the dark about the 4 year blizzard of lies directed at all of us.... curious!

Durham's report should help you understand better what you have unquestioning swallowed.

 

What "Durham Report"?

That has "Nothinburger" written all over it.

 

IT WAS A SEDITIOUS POLITICAL HIT JOB, BY CORRUPT LEADERS IN THE FBI, THE DOJ, AND ELSEWHERE IN THE GOVERNMENT: New Disclosures Confirm: Trump Himself Was the Target of Obama Administration’s Russia Probe.

And it counted on support from a corrupt press, which it got.

The focus was never Carter Page, Carter Page was just collateral damage,

In collusion with the Crooked Hillary campaign,

The scandal here was never Donald Trump, rather,

 

How to Conceal a Politicized Investigation.
Who would have ever thought that the FBI and Justice Department would be able to keep a lid on the documents finally being released. Who would have thought that they could continue their misuse of authority directed against political opposition, even after Trump took office?

The Obama officials, including holdovers who transitioned into the Trump administration, pulled that off through intimidation: that White House efforts into the scope of the investigation would be portrayed as criminal obstruction.

Senior Republicans were unaware that the Biden/Obama Whitehouse was using the pretext that Trump's Republican presidential campaign was a Russian front, and so were never able to pose tough questions about the probe’s predication.

These Scheming/Framing Liars in the corrupt Obama/Biden Administration effortlessly sidelined two Trump Appointments that could have gotten to the bottom of this: national-security adviser Michael Flynn and Attorney General Jeff Sessions. With that completed, Obama leftovers remained in power and the operation of subversion, continued.

The clarifying paper record have been under congressional demand for years, yet, only now are they being released.

As easily as they circumvented Flynn and Sessions, so they stonewalled Congress. The national security rational for concealment, yet another in the dense pack of lies.

They actually tampered with a document that was critical to the FBI’s presentation of “facts” to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

Democrats wanted this information buried the whole time, and

 

Spying on the Opposition

What Pientka and the FBI were supposed to use as an opportunity to brief the Republican presidential nominee they instead used an opportunity to further their subversion of Donald Trump for investigative purposes. They hope he'd blurt things out that would help the FBI frame him as an agent of Russia.

The Obama administration and the FBI were deliberately meddling in a presidential campaign

They knew this was a scandalous abuse of power as there

They were certain that Crooked Hillary was on her way to a landslide and their subversion would never come to light.

The corrupt Obama/Biden Administration had every right to the opinion that Trump was unfit for the presidency — though their opinion is irrelevant since it’s up to the voters to decide who is suitable.

They structured the investigation on the fiction. That Trump was acting on Russia’s behalf, supposing that this provided the fig leaf of deniability they needed to spy on Trump.

 

Get Them Talking.
So the got FISA surveillance warrants against Page, and then they repeatedly assured Trump that he was not under investigation.

Pientka recounts that when other intelligence-agency briefers took over to continue the briefing on other topics, Pientka did not leave; he stayed in the room “actively listen[ing] for topics or questions regarding the Russian Federation.” Here, in a classified report they figure no one will ever see, there is no pretense: FBI agents are monitoring Trump.

They had nothing, but the agents were exploiting the U.S. political process to try to turn nothing into a federal case. And would any public official voluntarily attend a security briefing, ostensibly meant to help him perform his public-safety mission, if he thought the FBI might be spying on him and writing reports with an eye toward portraying him as a hostile power’s mole?

Just as we’ve seen in the Flynn investigation, Pientka’s official FBI report is marked in bold capital letters: “DRAFT DOCUMENT/DELIBERATIVE MATERIAL.” Why deliberate over a draft when the purpose is to document a suspect’s statements? After all, he said whatever he said; there shouldn’t be a need to edit it. Drafts and deliberations are necessary only if a report is being massaged to fit the perceived needs of the investigation. Observe that, although the briefing was August 17, the memo is dated August 30. Nearly two weeks later, and it’s still in the form of a deliberative draft, meaning they’re not done yet.[/quote]
This is much like the Obama administration’s plan on January 6, 2017 when Comey, “briefed” Trump in New York City, a day after Comey met with his Obama-administration superiors — Obama, Biden, Susan Rice, and Yates.

 

Comey did not brief Trump about the Russia investigation; he buzzed Trump with the claim that Putin regime might have blackmail material — the pee tape — that it could hold over Trump’s head in order to get him to do the Kremlin’s bidding.

Comey was not giving information, that was merely the pretext. Comey was trying to get information: to provoke Trump into making an incriminating or false statement.

The FBI ran the same game on Flynn:

And then, instead of following the FBI rules for promptly completing interview reports, generate another “deliberative draft” that can be kneaded for a few weeks with the help of a former prosecutor, Happy Horn-dog, Lisa Page, counsel to the second-highest-ranking FBI official, Andrew McCabe.

Durham will give us much more. We still have the Crap Steele dossier, which all knew was bogus yet relied on to seek — and obtain — court-authorized eavesdropping. We have more to learn on the unmasking of Trump officials picked up n the FISA intelligence collection. We have more to learn about how deeply these Obama/Biden agents of subversion collaborated with American and foreign intelligence agencies, other Obama officials, congressional Democrats, as the Lying Fake News media to promote the lie that Trump was a Russian operative.

Information will continue to come out as the ongoing investigations near conclusion.

 

By the way nobody trusts Trump on any subject including the Russia Report. Trump has the lowest trust ratings of all modern
presidents. You are part of a gullible tiny percent of voters who trust him. Look at the polls


You can put up 10 posts on other subjects if you want but I’m only going to look at and respond to your last one in each set. I did that with the last set of your posts I only looked at and responded to the last one. If you think I’m reading all your desperate multiple posts the laughs on you. The basic thrust of my posts are how infinitesimal the Steele document was when it came to the charges indictment and arrests in the Russia INVESTIGATION. Glad to see you’re not contesting that anymore. That has been my only contention all along and I have no idea what the hell else you’re blubbering about. But I’m not going to follow your desperate obsession to post multiple times outside of my my contention regarding the Steele document. Just because lost on that one I'm not going to indulge your obsession. This last post is nothing but right wing opinions with no facts no links no evidence. In your dishonesty you have failed to respond to my original posts which I’ll once again post below. Go ahead print 5 more fact less posts and run away from my very challenging original posts

You have never responded to these: What are you afraid of

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-...ut-carter-page-dossier-secret-warrant-n893666

The heavily redacted documents released Saturday comprise an application to, and subsequent renewals by, judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing the FBI to investigate Page, a foreign policy aide to the Trump campaign. But it's already been established by the House Intelligence Committee that the Russia investigation began after the FBI learned that another campaign aide, George Papadopoulos, had been approached by a Russian agent. The agent told Papadopoulos the Russians had incriminating information about Hillary Clinton, including emails, according to court documents.. Papadopoulos then mentioned to an Australian diplomat that the Russians had "dirt" on Clinton, the Australians contacted the U.S. government, and the FBI began to take a look. The so-called dossier formed only a smart part of the evidence used to meet the legal burden of establishing "probable cause" that Page was an agent of Russia.


Let me know when you are ready to respond to my original Posts:


From my post 86" Please show us the FBI document the right wing writer Sperry is referring to which is the heart of your post. We have no way to know how right wing Sperry is paraphrasing from the document. Also the Steele doc had very little to do with most of the findings in the Russia investigation but you keep hammering away at this. None of the facts below came from the Steele Doc but you want to pretend they did. This list comes from Intelligence investigations"


We both know there is no way the Steele Document had much to do with all these charges and arrests in the list below.. Most of these came from separate findings by Intelligence Agencies. Trump the coward has failed to prove his fake news charges with evidence. which is what your doing.





https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...over-100-contacts-with-russians-before-taking


The Hill

Trump and associates had over 100 contacts with Russians before taking office.


" President Trump and at least 17 of his campaign officials and advisers had contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks or their intermediaries before his inauguration, according to an analysis published by The New York Times on Saturday.



Then-candidate Trump had at least six contacts before the Republican National Convention in July 2016, according to the analysis. One contact included signing a letter of intent to develop Trump Tower in Moscow, the Times reported.



Aras Agalarov, a Russian billionaire who hosted a Miss Universe pageant in Moscow with Trump, reached out to Trump several times before the Republican National Convention. Agalarov's son, Emin Agalarov, reportedly also contacted Trump on multiple occasions



Aras Agalarov sent a letter to Trump shortly after the primaries began expressing “great interest” in his campaign, the Times noted.



Trump, according to the analysis, began denying his interactions with Russian nationals shortly after accepting the Republican presidential nomination.



The Times analysis was conducted by compiling the newspaper’s reporting, documents submitted to Congress and court records related to special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russia's election interference and potential collusion between the Trump campaign and Moscow.



At least 10 other associates were told about the interactions but did not have any themselves, the newspaper noted.



The president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., had at least 17 contacts with Russians and a Russian intermediary, including arranging the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting.



Trump Jr.'s contacts also included exchanging private Twitter messages with WikiLeaks, the organization that published troves of stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign that U.S. intelligence officials later said were pilfered by Russian agents.Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and a White House senior adviser, had at least six contacts, according to the Times. Those



contacts included meeting with a Russian ambassador during Trump's transition and attending the Trump Tower meeting.



Roger Stone, the longtime GOP operative who worked as an informal adviser on the campaign, appears to have had the most contacts, according to the Times.



Stone had at least 18 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks before Trump took office, the Times noted.



He was arrested by the FBI on Friday after being indicted on seven counts in connection with Mueller's investigation: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements and one count of witness tampering.



The indictment states that a senior Trump campaign officials was "directed to contact Stone about any additional releases and what other damaging information Organization 1 had regarding the Clinton Campaign," an apparent reference to WikiLeaks.



"Stone thereafter told the Trump Campaign about potential future releases of damaging material by Organization 1," the document reads.



He was released on Friday on a $250,000 signature bond and vowed not to testify against Trump.



Stone is the sixth associate of Trump to be charged in Mueller’s expansive probe.



Others include Trump’s former personal lawyer Michael Cohen, adviser George Papadopoulos, ex-campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former national security adviser Michael Flynn.



According to the Times, Cohen is reported to have had at least 17 contacts, including being significantly involved in the plans to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and meeting with a Russian oligarch on another matter.



Papadopoulos, the analysis found, had at least 12 contacts, while Manafort and Flynn are reported to have had six and five contacts, respectively.



The Times cited Papadopoulos's multiple contacts with Russian operatives who sought to arrange meetings with Trump or his campaign and Russian President Vladimir Putin or Putin's staff.



Manafort, who also reportedly attended the Trump Tower meeting, had multiple contacts with Konstantin Kilimnik, a business associate connected to Russian intelligence, during his tenure on the Trump campaign.



Following Trump's election and in the lead-up to his inauguration, Flynn had a number of conversations with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States at the time, the Times noted."


Once again the right wingers are going after the questionable Steele Document and pretending it is the only reason for the Mueller investigation. Pure B.S

 

Link to what you are referring to.

Trust? Durham is doing a dispassionate evaluation of the evidence, and so far, it's not looking too good for you folks.

Yes, I properly called you out on that. You continually swerve between "it was verified" and it was "unimportant", both erroneous.

The subversive operation by the Obama/Biden Administration in collusion with the Crooked Hillary campaign, with the complicity of national-security officials who transitioned into the Trump administration, the Obama/Biden White House deployed the FBI to undermine the new president, dually using official investigative tactics (e.g. FISA surveillance, confidential informants, covert interrogations) and lawless classified leaks — the latter publicized by Fake News journalists politically invested in unseating Trump.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...target-of-obama-administrations-russia-probe/

And they failed at every step.

They failed to fix the election in a Crooked Hillary victory.
They failed to drive Trump from office.
And now they are in the process of failing to cover up the biggest abuse of White-house Authority in the history of our Great Republic.

 

Good post, PH.

And, one thing that Trump (and people like Nunes and Jim Jordan, Etc.) FAILS to Grasp is THIS:

Except for the 1/3 of America (Trump's "Base")...
... who have been chasing Non-Existent Ghosts (down an Endless Rabbit Hole) for 3+ Years...
...Nobody Even Cares about this stuff.

And, it doesn't matter how many times that Ancient Copypasta is posted for the Millionth Time.

None of it will move the needle against Biden or the Dems.

And Trump is Toast in November.

 

UNREAL: Obama Roommate and Former Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett Would Not Answer Whether President Obama Knew of Trump Spying.​

He Knew.
She Fools No one.
Walls Closing In.

They know that in light of the finally being revealed evidence that they will never be able to make a denial stick.

Put her privileged ass under oath!

@SenRonJohnson tells @MariaBartiromo There’s a good chance they could start issuing subpoenas next week.

.@SenRonJohnson tells @MariaBartiromo Valerie Jarrett just simply wouldn’t answer her question. She explain what the process was supposed to be but the Obama administration didn’t follow that process. There is clear evidence there was corruption at the top of the FBI.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1289958396788199424

Her dodging indirectly admits what we have already surmised, Spying Obama was behind the fraudulent and criminal spying and investigations targeting candidate and President Trump.

 

No Proof other than biased right wing sources.

Lol I see you're not creating multiple posts and still not contesting the fact that the Steele report was nothing more than a small fragment of the charges and convictions in the Russia investigation.


But in your desperate dishonesty you ran away from showing my last post in full. All you've done is taken my post and fragmented it to the point where it's unrecognizable and no one can discern it's original meaning. Then in your desperation you reprinted the fragments (from my posts) and pretended to responded to them as if they were full and complete sentences from my original Post. Which they are not. Only Trump would stoop to this kind of fecal behavior and deceive the American people this way. He has no respect for the voters, democracy or the rule of law. Trump shitz on everything he touches and has turned our country into his personal toilet. No one really trusts this azzhole which is why polls show him as least Trustworthy. Only you along with a fragment of the voters trusts him. You've proven that pure B.S. and dishonesty is your stock in trade

 

Facts and evidence do not require "trust", they are supported by verification. Obama/Biden badly misused their authority by illegally spying on Trump, and it doesn't look like they are going to be able to lie their way out of it, nor will you be able to bluster your way out of the plain fact that you were wrong the whole time, we were right the whole time, and Trump was always innocent of the blizzard of lies directed at him by the Deep State and the Lying Fake News Media.

The scandal was NEVER Donald Trump, the scandal has always been about how abusive officials can exploit their awesome powers against any political opponent.

Who would have thought the FBI and Justice Department could keep a lid on the documents for four years that are now being released.

How would they continue the probe even after Trump had taken office?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...target-of-obama-administrations-russia-probe/

Before the 2016 election, they intentionally concealed the existence of the spying from the congressional “Gang of Eight” (the bipartisan leadership of both houses and their intelligence committees). This prevented Senior Republicans from posing the tough questions on predication that would have kept the Obama/Biden White-house honest.

They rather easily sidelined Sessions through intimidation and Flynn by framing him. This left Obama leftovers in the key positions necessary to continue their subversion, but, after failing to fix the election for Hillary, they then failed to drive Trump from office and now they are failing to keep their subversion covered up.

Seems like a lot of failing by these folks, these days!

 

The paper record is profoundly embarrassing for you folks, so the FBI and Justice Department have been fighting tooth and nail to keep it buried, but documents about the investigation that were demanded by congressional investigators starting years ago — particularly by the investigation led in the House by then–Intelligence Committee chairman Devin Nunes (R., Calif.) are finally coming to light.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...target-of-obama-administrations-russia-probe/

Real horrible stuff here. Your panic is understandable.

 

Woops back up to 2 posts. And now you're using a right wing kook from NR to prove your points. The entire NR article is total conspiracy theory. I've proven you 100% wrong regarding the Steele Document significance and so you try to seek solace in off topic B.S. "You stated facts and evidence don' require Trust "on post 119. That's just the point. You fail to realize that facts and evidence do require Trust. The facts and evidence are only as good as the reliability of the writer or source they are coming from. By not thinking this way you have given yourself license to be dishonest on most of your posts. You have literally shown us that you can make up any fiction you want on your posts and could care less about with it's true or not.
But in your desperate dishonesty on your post 114you ran away from showing my post in full. All you did is take my post and fragmented it to the point where it was unrecognizable so thatno one could discern it's original meaning. Then in your desperation you reprinted the fragments (from my posts) and pretended to responded to them as if they were full and complete sentences from my original Post. Which they are not. Only Trump would stoop to this kind of fecal behavior and deceive the American people this way. He has no respect for the voters, democracy or the rule of law. Trump shitz on everything he touches and has turned our country into his personal toilet. No one really trusts this azzhole which is why polls show him as least Trustworthy. Only you along with a fragment of the voters trusts him. You've proven that pure B.S. and dishonesty is your stock in trade. With your belief that; "You stated facts and evidence don' require Trust" and on post 119 you've demonstrated that trust is the last thing you care about in your posts. Feel free to post 2,6,or 5 posts at a time. they won't be looked at.

 

Pardon me, but since there has been no official declassification of the ENTIRE DOCUMENT in the last 2 weeks, it would stand to reason that (once again) the American public is asked to take Sen. Graham's word for it....and let's face it, Graham's duplicitous stances during the last 4 years (let alone his deplorable behavior during the Obama years) doesn't exactly make him credible.

 

Please explain more. Are you talking about the newly released FBI doc

 

You are engaging in a form of the logical fallacy argumentum ad verecundiam. Who puts a point forward neither strengthens it nor weakens it, rather what is important how well it fits with the facts of the real world.

​

Further, Andrew C. McCarthy III served as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, leading the 1995 terrorism prosecution after the first World Trad Center Bombing against Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman and eleven others. H secured convictions against the terrorist who committed the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and planned a series of attacks against New York City landmarks. He also contributed to the prosecutions of terrorists who bombed United States embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. It is folks like these that FISA authorities are designed to be employed, not against the political opponents of Biden/Obama and Crooked Hillary. He knows more about these authorities than you will ever know, though we are all rapidly learning how dangerous they can be in the hands with the scruples of Obama/Biden/Comey/McCabe and their ilk.

Durham is investigating and that these recently released documents cast serious doubts on the integrity of the FBI and Justice Department. Were the FISA submissions by the Obama/Biden Administration trustworthy verified statements of fact or were they fictions assembled in order to gain illicit authority to spy on political rivals? Certainly we know that one document was deliberately tampered with by the FBI to conceal the fact that Carter Page was a CIA asset, and then added to the submission!

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...target-of-obama-administrations-russia-probe/

The rogue FBI framed Flynn:

And their chickens, they are coming home to roost! They failed to fix the election in a Crooked Hillary "landslide", they failed to drive Trump from office, and now they are failing to keep their cover up buried. Sure seems like a lot of failures these days for these folks!

Small wonder that Jonathon Turley calls this Way Bigger Than Watergate.

Two weeks later they are still massaging their reports that are supposed to be nothing more than the description of what occurred?

 

Real journalists would be asking these questions.