New Evidence in George Floyd's Death?

There’s a video circulating around the internet claiming to be from a Minneapolis police body cam. In the video Floyd says he can’t breath, this was before he was taken down. The autopsy revealed among other things that Floyd had the Corona virus. He also had a number of drugs in his bloodstream. If the video is real, combined with the coroner’s report the Minneapolis police will probably be exonerated. If in fact those things were the cause of death then months of rioting were based on a misconception. I doubt that even absolute proof would stop the riots. The riots evolved from the Floyd protests, were never justified but governors and mayors sided with rioters. It would seem that without a cause the riots should cease, if they don’t will these spineless officials act, if they don’t shouldn’t there be a massive federal response?

 

I doubt it will have any real impact because police brutality IS an issue. Floyd's death was just the "straw that broke the camel's back" that ignited the anger and frustration of a system that unfairly targets certain populations.

 

George Floyd's death was just an excuse for a bunch of angry thugs to riot and vandalize our country while a bunch of ignorant virtue signalling SJWs cheered them on and eventually joined them.

Any part of the "movement" which was truly about George Floyd was long forgotten, if there was ever any sincerity to it to begin with.

I mean really, what part of stealing a tv, setting a building on fire, or vandalizing a statue has anything to do with George Floyd?

 

Does any of this negate the fact that an officer kneeled on his neck for as long as he did?

 

It does and doesn't. It doesn't negate the fact that excessive force was used but this new evidence, along with cause of death could exonerate the policemen of murder.

I said a while ago they would get off lightly and it's looking likely. The best the prosecution could get is 3rd degree murder IMO and that's only because it's in MN. Any other state and they would get off scot free.

 

I don't know. Regardless of what drugs he was on, he was FACE DOWN ON THE GROUND IN CUFFS! There's no need to kneel on his neck for 8 minutes at that point, not even really 1 minute. I don't think this cop is getting away with it. I realized that some of these are NOT the cop's fault, like the michael brown incident, but this is a whole different ball game.

 

So even before he was put on the ground Floyd was saying how he was having problems breathing. Well, this video explains why the police did not put him in the squad car. This was one of my complaints, why did they keep him on the ground, and not put him in the car as they should have. Floyd begged them to let him lay on the ground rather than be placed in the car.

If the police were cruel, uncaring and unsympathetic, they would have simply closed the car doors and left him inside.

The police actions are conflicting, after showing compassion and not forcing him in the car, the cop knelt on his neck, which seems unnecessarily uncomfortable.

 

I'd be interested in how the cops in Minneapolis are trained to detain a suspect who seems to be in an altered state, is confrontational, somewhat irrational, refuses to sit in the car, and resists the orders of the police. I'll bet kneeling on the neck isn't the proper method. Are the police in MN trained on a particular way to detain a suspect in these circumstances, or was the cop forced winging it?

 

Floyd was a three time felon with a long history of violent confrontations with individuals including holding a gun to the belly of a pregnant woman.
That said, the cop killed him and deserves to be punished for his crime.

 

Bahaha, wishful thinking post of the month. This is blowing up all over the net and elsewhere, not going away anytime soon. Keep hope alive, though, it's precious.

 

Just asking. Would a similar video of an officer kneeling on someone else, say a white guy, who was exonerated in Dallas effect your opinion?

 

George Floyd's arrest was just an excuse for a bunch of angry thugs to brutally subdue him in a way that lead to his death.

 

I have been pointing this out from the first video releases. He is complaining of shortness of breath LONG before he is on the ground by the police SUV. He is breathing and talking but complaining of shortness of breath. That is CLASSIC for a cardio-pulmonary event which the autopsy said is what likely killed him. He was a deadman long before he collapsed to the street. The defense will have their own experts testify to this. While the officers especially Chauvin could be charged with an abuse, to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the they CAUSED his death is going to be quite difficult for the prosecution. Another case of over charging to appease the lynch mob.

 

Yes, there is no evidence that knee caused the death and ample that Floyd was already in a cardiac event long before he was walked over to the police SUV and would have died regardless of what happened there.

 

Leaving out the fact he resisted arrested and had committed a crime. The officers just saw him and decided to go kill him eh?

 

He had fought so hard that he had injured himself while in the vehicle and had to be removed, he collapsed on them due to the cardiac event he was experiencing but even while on the ground was still kicking and had to be subdued and why they were holding him on the ground until the ambulance they had called arrived. Did Chauvin abuse him while on the ground, yes. Murdered him? No.

 

I said from the beginning, once the autopsy findings were released and it was discovered that there was no neck trauma, no suffocation and that he likely died of a stress induced heart attack based on heart disease and drug use, that those cops wouldnt end up being convicted on murder. Now there is this evidence that shows he may have been in the process of a cardiac event before being held down and I just dont see murder convictions happening at all.

 

That is the point of all this. "New" evidence shows up to discredit the victim so people feel less sympathy toward them. There is a thread around here about Martin Luther King, Jr. not truly being a Christian. The man was assassinated in the 60s!

That is the way it ALWAYS works. Vilify the victim to distract from the real issues.

 

It takes a certain kind of person to justify Floyd's abuse. The rules of the board prevent me from saying what kind.

Please do inform yourself as to avoid similarly misinformed posts in the future.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...sy-and-the-structural-gaslighting-of-america/

 

Facts don't matter when globalists who hate that Americans are free and America is powerful want take the country down with the help of a major political party.

Not surprising that the George Floyd riots are no better founded than the origins of Black Live Matter.

 

Lack of an intellectual response to the facts noted. I don't know what you are trying to imply with your veiled ad hom but if you can't keep it civil and to the facts don't bother.

 

The "new" evidence, not really new just more confirmation, shows he was experiencing cardiac distress LONG before he was on the ground.

Now try addressing that FACT.

 

Oh I see you are one of those "certain kind of people" Atwater was referring to, you know the ones that go by the facts and the evidence.

 

You go with that. The way it works is that key facts are concealed until the MSM gets its riots and coverage... in other words $$$$$, then people in the center get POd at the extent they were duped when the truth emerges. But you believe whatever flop you like, and keep rationalizing out red herrings ad infinity.

People are fed up generally with BLACK perps and criminals (and no one else) being falsely rationalized as saints until the truth emerges. It doesn't work, all played out. It's way past the point of counterproductive, and no amount of rationalization will change that.

When you wish upon a Star!

 

That doesn't change anything. It's difficult to understand how people can rationalize just about any outrageous behavior so they don't have to face the ugly truth of society.