On the idea of slavery reparation in America

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Do you agree on the idea of slavery reparation for a Black_American?

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  1. stan1990

    stan1990 Active Member

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    The reparation of black people for the slavery that some American cities approved is a joke. In no way, a black person could prove his relation to slavery or that his ancestors were slaves. The thing is that some mayors, Democratic ones, looking to ride the George Floyd "I can't breath" wave for political purposes, they got nothing to do better than approving this kind of phony law. Slavery is bad. However, it is part of American history, neither people like it or not. I believe to be fair that Algerian, Tunisian, Syrian, Lebanese, Moroccan, and half a dozen African countries deserve occupied by the French colonialism deserve reparation too. India deserves a reparation from Great Britain. Congo deserves reparation from Belgium. And you know, the list can go very long. The world was unfair for too many people and nations, not only Black Americans.
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  2. stan1990

    stan1990 Active Member

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    This was a short thread as some people advice me to avoid long ones
     
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    The whole concept of 'reparations!' is absurd and illogical.

    I had 2 distant cousins, both underage, and both died in the war to free the slaves.

    Where are my family's reparations?

    What about Africans who sold other Africans into slavery? Some of their descendants have since emigrated to America. Should they pay reparations to both the freed slaves, and the white Americans who fought to free them?

    It is pathetic whining, and admission that they are too weak and unfit to compete in a world where survival of the fittest is the final arbiter of survival.
     
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    Every USA slave received their reparations when they were freed and allowed to become U.S. citizens and stay in the USA. Such a gift.
     
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    The black lives matter organization has claimed looting is reparations. Therefore those that have stolen anything in the last two months have already received their fair share of reparations, and no longer have any business calling for more.

    Some time ago, the hypothesis was presented that the first slaves brought to the united states were actually convicted criminals who were sold off simply so their homeland would not have to pay to keep them imprisoned and fed, essentially turning the united states into their own equivalent of a penal colony. If there is any truth to such, it is no surprise the current generation believes they are entitled to engage in acts of crime.
     
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    Well if that is your objection then call them Jim Crow Reparations. There are plenty of blacks still alive who lived during that dark spot in American history
     
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    They received their reparations when their descendants chose to engage in looting, on the basis that those who were victims of theft have insurance to cover the damages.
     
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    I think the Democrat Party should pay reparations to blacks, so my vote is a resounding YES!
     
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    Gotcha. I guess they have a lot more collecting to do until things are Even Steven and your will celebrate their success.
     
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    We are currently seven generations past slavery, but yet the Democrat Party has consistently figured out ways to continue to control the Black population and keep them subordinate.

    When I watched Al Sharpton talk at the George Floyd tribute in Minneapolis, I was astounded that almost everything that he listed as being steps of Black progress were actually the results of Republican efforts.

    And now BLM has been formed to create an eighth generation saddled with the same Democrat :democrat:...
     
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    If I may suggest some source material, Dinesh d'Souza does a great job in Death of a Nation.
     
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    I've have never been in support of direct financial reparations. I think that a better plan would be a committed and concerted effort to address and eliminate the inequalities that exist today in the financial, housing and educational arenas. That would benefit the entire country far more than financial settlements with one group.
     
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    Reparations then work both ways. As blacks commit 4 times their proportion of murder and many other crimes- Damaging people, property, incurring massive costs... and as black were catching blacks in Africa and selling them as slaves a thousand years before any white man ever arrived there- I think they should be grateful they are here, by whatever means- and owe a lot of people an apology, instead of a celebration of victimhood an demands for entitlement. They aren't looking for justice, we have been making vast adjustments for them for over 50 years now- they are looking for the right to steal. Let me make it clear- black are not one people; they are a culture within a culture, some excellent citizens who support themselves and contribute to society, and then- the ones that even they hate who are dedicated to the thug life. That is the problem; and it is a curse on all good black people, because they suffer the identity that the thugs of the same color represent.

    IF the people they are descended from had not been brought here (and less than 4% of all sold slaves at the time were) they would have grown up in Angola Gambia, where slavery thrived into the early 1900's, was then replace by a sort of forced labor thing that lasted 50 years, then endured a 30-years civil war that killed more than ours- and would be making on average, $260 a month, living on a dirt floor under a thatch roof, without potable water, without sewer services or health care. Wrongful as it may have been- things could have gone worse; they could still be living there.
     
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    Under Lincoln, the former slaves were to be given 40 acres and a mule. After the Democrats assassinated him, Andrew Johnson, a Democrat, revoked the policy and reversed the reparations.
     
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    The reparations need to come from their country of origin that sold them into slavery, not the US.
     
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    Some still got their hands out complaining about lack of opportunity. Others went to work selling acres and selling animals and they are part of the middle class.
     
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    Sounds like democrats haven't changed much in 150 years. They're still screwing black people over for their own advantage.
     
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    Nope. Southern Democrats were the plantation owners who exploited Blacks, stealing their labor. Northern Democrats exploited immigrants, stealing from the treasury to buy their votes. The names changed --- Martin van Buren is no longer, but his machine politics lives on.

    And Booth said what about Lincoln for wanting to give former slaves the vote? Who was the tyrant? Those who freed the slave and gave them rights or Democrats who enslaved Blacks and wanted perpetual slavery?
     
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    Nope. My ancestors didn’t own slaves so why should I pay for people NOW that we’re never slaves? And do all the black millionaires, and even middle class get repeats rooms? Should I have to pay Oprah or Lebron? It is theft of the highest order and too corrupt to even discuss.

    THIS is something for every white person to march and riot against if any dirty politician ever passes something so atrocious.
     
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    New information. But what do you suggest now?
     
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    Excellent comment
     
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    A good comment. I agree
     
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    Good point
     
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    Good comment
     
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    White people lived during that dark spot too
     

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