Minneapolis officer's attorney alleges George Floyd overdosed on fentanyl, says charges should be dr

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  1. TCassa89

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    He died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression" with drug intoxication listed as a contributing factor. However, he did not overdose

    All claims suggesting that he overdosed do not come from any medical source
     
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    While the autopsy did find drugs in his system, the results of the autopsy do not show that he overdosed, and the cause of death listed is “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression” with drug intoxication listed as a contributing factor

    Again this is not my opinion, the results of the autopsy do not suggest an overdose
     
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    Doesnt matter if he overdosed or not. He died of a heart attack due to drug use and heart disease.
     
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    No, the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression"

    Again, I'm not posting this to exchange opinions, none of this is my opinion, these are the results of the a autopsy. You are free to include your opinion into the discussion, however said opinion should not be acknowledged as being one in the same as any medical examinations on the subject that have occurred
     
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    What exactly do you think a heart attack is? Cardiopulmonry arrest = heart attack. He might have had that heart attack while in police custody but a heart attack is a heart attack.
     
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    What do you think caused the heart attack? because according to the medical examiner it was a sudden failure in the heart's ability to pump blood to the brain due to the stress put on the body from neck compression
     
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    Being arrested is a stressful endeavor, so is resisting arrest. Floyd killed himself.
     
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    Advanced heart disease, drugs and stress from resisting arrest. Simply cutting off blood flow to the brain does not cause a heart attack.
     
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    His arteriosclerosis was one thing the coroner noted. Along with the drugs.
     
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    Incorrect, that is lethal amount he had in him.

    He killed himself.

    This officer should walk.
     
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    As contributing factors, that has been addressed already, however the notion that he had experienced a drug overdose is not accurate.
     
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    It most certainly is given how much he had in him.
     
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    If Floyd had built up a tolerance, that amount of drugs wouldn't even faze him.
     
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    It will be interesting to see how the trail goes as we now know Floyd killed himself.
     
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    But there's no doubt about what happens if the cases get tossed without a trial, so I am guessing the Judge does not want his/her house burned down.
     
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    A few things worth noting

    1. Lethal dosage is relative to the subject

    2. Toxicology reports are not exclusive to what drugs were active in the subject's bloodstream. A drug can remain in the body and be included
    in a toxicology report months after the drug was taken, long after it is no longer active in the bloodstream.

    3. While Floyd did have drugs in his system, some of which were contributing factors, we already know from the autopsy that Floyd did not have a drug overdose

    All claims suggesting that he overdosed do not come from a medical source
     
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    Relative to some degree, but the amount he had was a death sentence.

    We now know for a fact he killed himself due to his own bad health and drugs in his system. The stress of fighting the police on top of that and he killer himself.
     
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    According to the autopsy the cause of death was cardiopulmonry arrest caused by failure in the heart's ability to pump blood to the brain due to the stress put on the body from neck compression.
     
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    Yet now we know it was his own bad habits that killed him.
     
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    Its too bad he suicided by cop.
     
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    This is not true. It is not that quick. There is an antidote that can be administered by first responders that can counteract the effects of opioids. If death occurs as quick as you claim the the first responders would not have time to administer the antidote.
    https://www.transformationstreatmen...long-does-it-take-for-an-overdose-to-kick-in/

    Obvious from the video, Floyd was not dead before he hit the ground. But Floyd did die as a result of cardiac arrest. This was caused by mechanical asphyxiation. This was aided by his addition to Fentanyl, methamphetamines and his poor health.
     
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    Uh no, we already know from the autopsy that it was neck compression that caused cardiopulmonry arrest. Furthermore, we know through video evidence that the neck compression was applied for several minutes after he had already been constrained

    The notion that it was a drug overdose that caused cardiopulmonry arrest does not come from any medical source.
     
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    Incorrect, we know due to the amount of drugs in him and how lethal they are he killed himself.

    Any healthy person would have been fine in that situation, yet he was so drugged up and had health problems he definitely killed himself.
     

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