Man injured after officer involved shooting in Kenosha

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  1. DaveBN

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    Not arguing this with you here. I agree with @21Bronco ’s suggestion on that topic. Create a thread.
     
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    Royalty where... Antarctica?
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    I've clearly said it appears to be a lawful shooting, of course they thought he was going for a weapon JUST AS in the examples I gave which will get you shot. If they tell you to keep your hands up and you reach into your clothing, they will properly assume you are reaching for a weapon JUST AS if you are reaching into your car where a gun is usually stashed.
     
  4. DaveBN

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    Didn’t say you’re being illogical, but you ARE mistaking critiques for hatred. Do with that what you will.
     
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    Where are you getting that he had a knife? If you have this verified, post it because I'm not finding it. Below is a witness account of what happened, which is one account, but doesn't indicate a knife. It does indicate he pushed passed the cops and kept walking, but how is that a threat to their lives? Also, reaching into a car with your children in it to pull a gun on how many police officers is not the thinking of a sound mind. Do we have any evidence he was of unsound mind?

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-...osha-shooting-jacob-blake-neighbors-witnesses
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Have you acknowledged they were yelling at him to drop the knife he had? Maybe they didn't say please and had they he would have dropped the knife and raised his hands? What is it exactly you think they should have done?
     
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    He could have been going to get his gun.

    He should have been shot.. Cops can't read minds.

    The guy was an idiot. If he dies blame him!

    I can't blame the cops in this case. What reasonable person would?

    The guy got what he deserved.

    If you don't want to get shot by cops...stop forcing them to do it!

    This attitude you see too often coming from black males is their fault. Poor raising and thuggery. Fock them , no matter what race they are.
     
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    It's an intricate part of the story, how it is being reported, just read the post here and watch the black community now burn the place down.
     
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    Sorry, but you didn't reply to me with any video. If you posted it earlier in the thread, I didn't get to it and probably won't.

    Again, my nice story has a point you refuse to avoid. That often times, people make the same threatening move and don't get shot. So either Blake did something to make them feel he was reaching for a gun, or the police were mistaken. It's one or the other. If you can't concede the police could have been mistaken, then the next nice story you should tell is why you can't concede that possibility.
     
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    I’ve already stated what I believed they should have done. Don’t care to repeat myself at this point.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    OP youtube link :05 the police yelling at him drop the knife.
     
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    So you agree that the police only shoot when it's fully justified? Every time? Even against white people? What are your thoughts on Randy Weaver or David Koresh? Was that a justified use of police force? I presume you would say yes.
     
  13. DaveBN

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    Create a thread.
     
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    That's not proof he had a knife at all. The police have mistaken items for weapons before, have they not?
     
  15. Bluesguy

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    Actually no, you said they should tased, they had no obligation to, and we have a witness that said they did. What else? Tackle, no they don't have an obligation to tackle him especially if he is already armed.

    Why do I never hear you say what the criminal should have done?
     
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    No need it is part of the story here and the riots were noted on the first page.
     
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    Sounds, based on what I read, that this was unjustified. The question is, WHY isn't there more outrage? If the belief is that the government should not take life without due process, and not just the belief but the law of the land, then shouldn't we be outrage every time it happens regardless of race?
     
  18. DaveBN

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    Unrelated case. Looks like it already has a thread. No need to let it spill over.
     
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    Some people do some crazy things and I wonder what reasonable and fair things can be done to reduce this problem. A cop is literally pulling on the shirt of this guy telling him to stop. The guy ignores him, walking into his car. I would like to think most people would stop and do as the officer says. Reminds me of the Ahmoud Arbery story. For the sake of argument, the guys with the shotguns had no right to assault this guy. Were I Ahmoud? I'd have put my hands up, answered whatever questions they had and reported them to the police for the assault. This guy? Unarmed, he attacked someone holding a shotgun. Just seems nuts and must be happening for a reason. Was the cop justified? For the sake of argument, no. Would you just walk away from a cop while he's pulling on your shirt trying to get you to stop? I like to think I wouldn't.
     
  20. DaveBN

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    Because my critique was of the police response.
    If I were to critique the criminal it would be for him to not be a criminal.

    And if you were looking for my response post witness testimony, I’ve given that as well sorry you didn’t pay attention.
     
  21. MissingMayor

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    Elijah McClain and Tamir Rice come to mind.
     
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    What made it unjustified?
     
  23. DaveBN

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    Argue it with someone else then. I disagree that it’s on topic.
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    Well don't you believe his actions were what they were responding too? And your critique has been pretty empty other than they should have said please or something.
     
  25. MissingMayor

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    Can you please link to where you gather that as a fact? I haven't seen it published anywhere.
     

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