You can't hunt with an AR - part II

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  1. TOG 6

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    IMG_20200829_144306287.jpg.png Top rifle
    Remington Model 700, .308 Winchester, 24" barrel. 4-16x44 UTG optic
    Bottom rifle:
    Aero Precision Model M5E, .308 Winchester, 20" barrel, 6-24x50 Nikon optic

    What can you hunt with the Remington that you cannot hunt with the Aero?
    Why?
     
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    What is the terrain and your most likely range?
     
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    Early studies showed that hunters with large magazine capacities tend to be less discerning with their aim, sometimes firing off at several
    animals before checking to see if they hit the first animal.

    I remember that seemed to be the reason they limited duck hunters to three rounds at any one time.
     
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    It depends on how a particular waterfowl's population and habitat is doing. Snow geese are far overpopulated and are destroying their arctic breeding grounds. USFWS provides a late season, no stamp required, electronic callers permitted, no plugs required, no daily limit, kill all you want to kill, in a long conservation effort to cut their population to save the land needed for the bird to continue.

    The white pelican is coming back so fast on the Mississippi flyway this could happen to them down the road.

    Canada geese? Protected, but the federal government and state governments destroy nests and poison Canada geese there are so many. Treaties regarding the geese provide for "depradation" whenever the geese become a nuisance or damage agriculture.
     
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    When you are hunting feral hogs, you kill as many as you can. They are so much of a nuisance that there is no limit, no license required, and always in season. Death to hogs. We even chase them down and hunt them from helicopters.
     
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    This writer may be a military veteran but he does not have a well rounded knowledge of firearms.
     
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    No reason why you can't, at least in VA. For big game, deer, bear, etc. must be larger than .22 caliber and magazine capacity no more than 5 rounds.
     
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    Thanks for the information.

    I don't hunt and realize that with the absence of natural predators some animals/birds can become overpopulated and hunting is needed. I'm encouraged that the Snow geese, White Pelican and other bird populations are thriving to the extent that they are.
     
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    With the nationwide examples of widespread mob violence and home invasions, it sounds like you're hyping "assault rifles" for people who do not want to be victims.
     
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    Regardless, it's easy to see which is the more dangerous weapon in the picture above. I'm not fooled by NRA propaganda about assault rifles.

    The AR has a folding stock. This makes it easy to conceal and thus use for criminal purposes. It has a place to accept a large capacity magazine. This makes it easier to gun down many victims in a short period of time. It has a pistol grip which the shooter can use to stabilize the weapon during rapid and continuous fire. It has a barrel shroud to protect the shooter from a heated barrel due to rapid and continuous fire.
     
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    No. Having shootouts with the "bad guys" endangers innocent bystanders and makes it harder for law enforcement to do their job.
     
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    In addition to the fact that the police are not obligated to defend you, more and more people are discovering that since LEOs cannot or will not do their job, they're on their own.

    There have been at least 3 times in which I've had to use a firearm to defend myself and my neighbors against individuals whose agenda was not to make me any healthier, wealthier or happier.

    Since the police cannot and will not defend me, why shouldn't I have access to a "tremendously lethal tool"?
     
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    Two ex-Marines standing watch protecting their neighborhood in Kenosha.

    The neighborhood has organized itself to provide itself 24/7 coverage.

    If no one tries to go in and disturb the peace everyone will be fine.
     
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    Did you notice how you didn't address the question asked in the OP?
    I did.
    Why did you not address the question asked in the OP?
     
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    Did you notice how you did not address the question asked in the OP?
    I did.
    Why did you not address the question asked in the OP?
     
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    Never mind the fact the statement you quoted has no relationship to the issue presented in the OP.
     
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    No. You're fooled by the propaganda spread by the anti-gun loons.
     
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    You do realize that both rifles pictured fire exactly the same round, right? You do realize that the standard 5.56mm caliber cartridge is considered insufficiently lethal to hunt big game in most states, right? You do realize that the FMJ round was specifically designed to meet the Hague Convention guidelines to reduce grievous wounds in combat, and isn't legal for hunting big game in nearly all states because it is insufficiently lethal, right?

    Let those doctors compare wounds to those produced by a 12 gauge shotgun firing buckshot.
     
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    I can't wait to see the "early studies" on this.

    So why can snow goose hunters load any number of rounds?
     
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    Especially given that the .220 Swift predates the Remington .223 used in the early AR-15s by 20 years and has an MV that 600fps faster than the .223 Remington.
     
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    I would like to ask the guy on the left why his optic is mounted on the handguard rather than the upper receiver.
     
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    This comes late, after the season is over for other waterfowl, to deliberately depopulate snow geese but spare other waterfowl.

    This is a perfectly legal late season snow goose shotgun @20 rounds:

    [​IMG]
     
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    It's truly stunning how little you know about firearms. I dare you to grab the barrel of a rifle after it fires a single shot.
     
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    I'm not sure, but that drum might be an after market mod that displaced the glass?

    Possibly it was moved to accommodate for a vision problem?

    The guy just said I'm going to mount it my way?
     
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