Portland shooting leaves 1 dead as pro-Trump group clashes with BLM

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  1. MissingMayor

    MissingMayor Well-Known Member

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    And if someone else in that group got up and didn't agree he would never post it. The videos are selectively edited (may or may not have been needed in this case) and usually other videos come out showing a different context.

    The victim was a person with a TBI who wouldn't take his meds and therefore ascribed to conspiracy theories and got in trouble with the law. Truly sad.
     
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    Of course not. The fact he pointed you to a gateway pundit article to editorialize 4chan just makes it one of the worst sources you could imagine.

    TBH, I have read the "sleuthing". They do a good job of identifying a person who was at the demonstrations earlier by a neck tattoo, but the only link to a suspected shooter are straps and a white shirt. They also fail to recognize that more than one person in the video could be the shooter.
     
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    Just say NO to paying the bill. Problem solved.
     
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    You're correct, it was. Most of his supporters put left/dem/antifa/blm/etc in the same category. Especially in the forums on this website. So I get caught up in it when posting back often times.
    I have not seen anything out of Biden but every time trump talks about dividing the country, Biden needs to be out there sending a message of unity.
    I'd say both sides have there extremism. Steve King of Iowa is one such example.
    And until very recently held powerful seats, but his extremism finally got some R's to get some balls.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the rioters are breaking all the toys (buildings, streets) and the Democrats will ask the federal government for billions of dollars to rebuild and buy them new toys. They refuse help to stop the brats from running free and break everything but they'll have no issues with begging Congress for dollars later. Why should the federal taxpayer buy them new toys when they refuse to take care of the ones they had?
     
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    Obviously most of us don't care as long as they don't come to the US government asking for a handout to pay for any of this. At this point, all they have become is the prime example how ineffective progressive democrat rule has become over the last few years.
    All Portland, Seattle, Chicago, NYC, and Minneapolis are doing is providing campaigns for Trump.
    Perhaps the constantly running firehoses might help wash away the urine and feces left daily by the homeless that choose to live in the "summer of love".
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you consider Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer, the NYT or WaPo, MSNBS, or CNN to be contributing to healing the divide?
    Thousands of examples but this was laying on my desktop.
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    I can't speak for why nothing was done after those incidents.
    And I don't remember riots like we see today happening.
    With looting, killing, vigilantism.

    But the riots today are worse, IMO, than in the past. And I don't see trump trying to address the issue because he knows the longer they go on the better he thinks his chances of winning reelection is.
    Justice moves slow in this country. It took a war to end slavery.
    Neither party wanting to work with the other creates large gridlocks.
     
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    I view all news entities the same.
    The cater to their audience. They generate money by selling stories or getting likes/clicks/views.
    Thats the capitalism news media. And the 24/7 news cycle stations need to sensationalize everything.

    Do you not think Fox/Breitbart/RW news sources don't do the same thing? I know for a fact they do.

    And yes, they feed into the National narrative.
     
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    The city residents address that at the voting poll. Or they call for resignation.
    Has the residents of Portland requested a recall or resignation of either the Mayor or the Governor?

    The federal gov't doesn't dictate local issues. Unless asked for by the local residents. Isn't that part of limited federal powers?
     
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    It is their city. The residents, are they calling for removal of the Mayor? Another poster told me, he is still in the running to win in Nov. So, many residents must like his policies.
    Isn't that what local issues are about. Local residents. Limited federal powers?
     
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    So Andy Ngo is an Asian dude working with white supremacists, and anyone killed by Antifa is a brain damaged conspiracy theorist?
     
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    If they don't want the federal building there, then let them sit empty.
    And if they aren't protecting them, they are saying they don't want them.
     
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    trump knows this and that is why division is his campaign strategy.
    I only hope his campaign of division fails.
     
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    In Portland... when Fa shows up, I'm glad we have Anti-Fa....
     
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    There are definitely some of the rioters that just want trouble, the protesters just want to not have police shoot up their home while they are asleep or white supremacists that get thanked by the police from killing them in the middle of the street.
     
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    Too much to ask for in Trump America (AKA Germany 1936)
     
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    Not verified if the killer is part of Antifa or not. But Patriot Prayer is a group that likes to bring violence. A lot of "Antifa" on the West Coast seem to be violent as well.

    And yes, Andy Ngo has sold out to the alt right.
     
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    I guess they identified the time period they wanted to return to...
     
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    The primary for Portland mayor was May 19th. There were no highly politicized riots then. ;) The governor is not up for reelection this year.
     
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    Maybe you don't realize you're doing it, but you have a distinct pattern of saying something and then contradicting it a few moments later. First you accuse Trump of not addressing the issue, then you said it's none of his business.

    Trump has offered help to the cities with the riots and was turned down and threatened with lawsuits.

     
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    Well then perhaps these Democrat led states should just stop sending the Federal Government their overwhelmingly large tax burdens thus eliminating the need to ask said Government to send some of it back to them?
     
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    To the people who deny the left's approval and encouragement of the looting and riots, let me present this gem from NPR.
     
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    And it's all because of liberal, Democrat leadership.
     
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    Go for it. :)
     
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