Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ President repeatedly disparaged war dead

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Did you show him tape of Trump yelling at gold star parents?

    I know it's hard to believe we have a president who would disrespect military service.

    But, this one story is only one minor piece of the overwhelming pile of evidence.
     
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    No you didn't. My argument was corroboration. You tried turning it into anonymity, which it is not. Funny how you haven't addressed my actual argument.
     
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    But in order to compare it, you have to make as many elements as possible similar. Thus five doctors using the same four anonymous sources.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Lol. No, I don't. I can use scientists corroborating each other with independent studies, if I want. I can compare scientific independent review. Journalistic corroboration is what we're seeing here. These reporters have their own personal networks, budgets, and bosses. Their own ambitions, separate from each other. They're operating independently. If one journalist suspects a source of being unreliable, that's what he says. When he confirms another report, he's saying the information is accurate. You just can't get around this.

    And doctors diagnose illness with examinations, not anonymous sources. My god, that's ridiculous. A doctor doesn't need to know of a previous examination to form a diagnosis.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have any of them used anything but the same four anonymous sources? There are more than that who are willing to identify themselves who say it is not true.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Joe Biden and John McCain were very good friends. Have you heard who Cindy and Meghan are voting for?

    This is why I'll never vote for Trump. I'll vote for McCain again, in his grave, before I'll vote for Trump.
     
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    Well, people are saying he fellates dead goats while popping his toadstool to topless Putin pics...
     
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    Who cares? They're professionals. That's how reality works.

    When doctors corroborate diagnoses, we see this as reliable.

    When scientists corroborate experiments, we see this as reliable.

    When eye witnesses corroborate testimony, we see this as reliable.

    When journalists corroborate reports, we see this as reliable.

    How they do their work is irrelevant.

    This is reality. Good luck fighting it.
     
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    I am not going to use even one doctor who gives me a diagnosis based on anonymous sources. Even if he knows the sources, I would want t know his sources. Sending me to another doctor who uses those same anonymous sources would provide me no comfort at all. I would want to know why his sources are anonymous.

    Give up on this analogy. It is worthless as most analogies are.
     
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    Says who? You? Trump has rebuilt the military. My nephew is a Marine, a young guy, half Mexican, who didnt vote for trump in 2016 but will in 2020. He's has 2 deployments and has seen pay raises and and a resurgence in pride in our armed forces under Trump. He ordered a Trump flag the other day, no crap. I almost couldnt believe it. His attitude has changed in the last 4 years.
     
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    Quick! Call the Atlantic! I'm sure they will like a hot scoop!

    I mean.. Seriously. This is how stipid and dishonest a portion of the media has become. It's completely pathetic and you know it.
     
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    Hopeless. Have fun convincing the American public that everyone is lying in a huge conspiracy against Trump. You got QAnon. I doubt you'll get any more.

    Doctors and anonymous sources. Lmfao. If you decide to get serious, give it a whirl. I'll wait.
     
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    Exactly.

    There is strong evidence concerning Trump's attitude toward military service. There wasn't any need to fabricate evidence.
     
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    I totally respect his service. And, I note that in joining, he took an oath to protect the constitution - something that is more important than who is presideent.

    However, he's making a big mistake in terms of his political views. And, I'd point out that active service members are showing decreasing approval of Trump.
     
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    Yes, I'd like Kelly to come forward and tell the truth, too.

    But, the Trump attitude described in the Atlantic is true beyond all rational doubt.

    He has been monumentally disrespectful to those who are serving and have served.

    Think about your own situation and how Trump treats gold star parents.
     
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    Why exaggerate? Everyone is not doing anything.
    You are the one that brought up the doctors. The article had the anonymous sources. None of this was brought up by me.
     
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    So you agree with what I said "In addition, I consider this just further proof that the democrats will go to any length to condemn Trump. If anything it just makes me more suspicious of everything else the democrats provide."
     
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    Again with the anonymity. That's your argument, not mine. This is a fallacious argument because anonymity does not prove a statement to be false. It's a ridiculous argument. Corroboration is my argument, which you continually ignore and deflect back to anonymity. Your argument is disingenuous and obtuse. Pathetically obtuse.
     
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    Anonymous sources do not allow themselves to be questioned.
     
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    lol. No!

    I'm saying that there is GIGANTIC evidence of Trump's view of service in general and military service in particular.

    So, nobody would need to bother to make something up if their objective had been to campaign against Trump.

    There just wasn't any reason for that. And, making crap up would be a stellar way to look really really bad were the story to be found out as false.

    The very idea that the cemetery story is fake news just doesn't even pass a reasonable sniff test.

    Where's Kelly???

    Why is he hiding?

    How come the push back is all centered on the one cemetery event and not on the numerous other similar events of ignorance and disrespect that the Atlantic article lays out?

    After Trump's years of disgusting treatment of vets, is there really any question about this president's disrespect for those who serve?
     
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    If Ddyad repeats a lie often enough Ddyad will come to believe it. Break the cycle of lies from Faux News, the Trump Ministry of Propaganda, and dump Trump, the biggest liar in the Universe.
     
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    I guess democrats just kept help themselves with the exaggerations.
    Just the other day democrats were saying that Fox no longer supports Trump. It appears democrats only believe what suits them.
     
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    Conservatives believe only what suits Trump. Conservatives do not have an opinion until Trump utters or publishes the triggers.
     
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    It is not. But it also is not something anyone with an ounce of reason or respect can challenge...which of course Trump did...repeatedly
     
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    Just another exaggeration. Is that the best you can do?
     

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