Is Chinese 5G technology dangerous?

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On a scale of one to five how dangerous do you think Made in China 5 G is?

  1. One out of five... not too dangerous... not much more dangerous than any other source of 5G.

    5 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Two out of five.... somewhat dangerous.

    2 vote(s)
    10.0%
  3. Three out of five... a serious threat to our privacy and national security.

    3 vote(s)
    15.0%
  4. Four out of five... a significant threat to our privacy and national security.

    1 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Five out of Five.... Made in China 5G technology would give the Communist Party of China power!

    9 vote(s)
    45.0%
  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I personally think that Made in China 5G technology is very dangerous indeed.

    What are the best alternate sources for this technology that you know about?

    Or do you think that 5G is too dangerous no matter who makes it?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_over_Chinese_involvement_in_5G_wireless_networks

     
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    Yeah, I think that Chinese equipment would be used to spy on us through backdoors put into the equipment.

    That's why made in the USA should be preferred to Chinese made goods. Then the backdoors would be for the CIA. :p
     
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    Good point...... I would far rather be spied on by the CIA than by the Communist Party of China....


    I think that China has been deliberately dumping low cost fentanyl on the USA and Canada in order to stir up civil unrest. China seems to regards the USA as their number one enemy..... and they seem to be attempting to wage war on the USA without even firing a shot from an AK 47
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    How Fentanyl Gets To The U.S. From China (HBO)
     
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    I didn't think at first there was much to be concerned about but an engineering friend of mine started talking about the health dangers of being near one of those towers and now he has me a bit worried.
     
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    A powerful case can be presented that this COVID 19 virus was released partly to cover up the damage to vulnerable people that G-5 technology will do in less than one year of exposure!

    Big Media will cooperate with Big Pharma and label as COVID 19 deaths..... what is really caused by G-5 exposure.
     
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    It is not the 5G technology that is a threat but companies like Huawei and ZTE that have in the past caught trying to steal information from us. Huawei makes the best 5G chip. It's all about speed. The technology will be changing how we do business, play games, and do interstate commerce. The bandwidth only travels about 30 feet so that is why companies like Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile are ramping up to deliver the signal. Verizon will have a edge in the home market , AT&T business and T-Mobile your phone. Everyone is waiting for Apple to roll out there 5G phone. One of the reasons you have seen a huge run up in the stock market is because of the chip makers like Nividia for gaming, Qualcom a huge supplier to Apple & Samsung, You also have the Iot (Internet of things) and the smart cars and trucks, which will require more and better chips. Intel temporarily lost its edge to AMD for now but in time I think will come back. China is not happy that Taiwan Semi Conductor is going to build a plant in the USA. Then again the USA is not happy that some in the EU are going with Huawei over Ericson and Nokia. If you are in the market now and are getting creamed in the Nasdaq I would just sit tight and even take the opportunity to buy a little. There is a fund QQQ that gives you exposure to most all the players.
     
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    The data streaming will be 500x more powerful than 4 G, 500x not two or three times, I have a hard time believing that there will not be some kind of danger to people living right near or under one of those towers, it seems inconceivable.
     
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    The shortwave radiation coming off those big towers is immense.
     
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    Probably the best alternative would be 5G but at far lower intensity levels over a local network, where you'd have to bring your mobile phone to a local reception area to be able to access the faster 5G.

    The same way there used to be special areas for wifii laptop internet access or special areas designated for smoking.

    Another alternative would be a special version of the internet designed for low data, where all the designs would be very generic, and there would be no pictures, or only very low resolution pictures you would actually have to selectively individually open to see. You would not be able to see videos.
     
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    Does anybody here know anything about patches or buttons that can go on your computer that apparently block most of the radiation from your 5G devices?

    This is one possible example:


    The dangers in our midst, relating to recently erected 5G booster


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    Could something like this help?

    https://www.amazon.com/SYB-Pocket-Radiation-Protection-Shield/dp/B00O82WT2I

    RadiArmor Anti-Radiation Cell Phone Sleeve - EMF Blocking Pouch That Fits Most Cell Phones - Updated Version (Black, Large)
     
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    I voted "two out of five", which was probably uninformed stupidity, but I voted that way because there's much we don't know about how 5G may or may not be used, given its capabilities.

    Are those potential threats purely technical, or a combination of political persuasion and technical 'data-mining'...? We don't know, and I don't know.
     
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    As I understand it, the bandwidth is dependent upon close proximity to the transceiver, which means adequate coverage as advertized will require one every few hundred feet or so (in populated areas). Thats a lot of (potentially overlapping!) exposure.

    I've heard it could be roughly equivalent to keeping your microwave in your bedroom and running it 24/7, if u live near enough to a node or in an area where multiple nodes overlap coverage. Use to be we were told that was a bad idea...
     
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    I think the major company that sells those phone protectors is snakeoil. com
    The biggest danger from cell phones is car accidents.
    https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/cell-phones-fact-sheet
     
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    Wow!!!!

    Thank you for that information..... .now I have a better idea regarding:

    Could a real estate boom plus better Fed policy pay off USA national debt?
     
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    Its refreshing to know theres still something I can find common ground with the leftist Berkeley-ites. I agree with pretty much everything they're saying here.
     
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    I agree, Trump thought so too before they gave his daughter the trademarks

    Ivanka meets with China on white house business, they give her Trademarks as a gift?

    "Ivanka Trump Wins China Trademarks, Then Her Father Vows to Save ZTE"


    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/business/ivanka-trump-china-trademarks.html

    "six days before the ZTE announcement, China said it approved five of Ms. Trump's trademarks, according to data from China's trademark office."

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    Yes..... I also like it when I can find at least some common ground with my more leftist friends both online and as we visit the neighbours.
     
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    Ignore Barr, he's corrupt.

    About the geopolitical implications, tough titties. Republicans want us to be a big power, and then sleaze out constantly. If you don't invest in technology, you lose. This ain't new, some of the chips our military depends on come from you know where...

    But I didn't make my titty point. Sorry, we can't afford to divide the world in half, with Chinese 5G on one side, and American 5G on the other. For one thing, we'd have the smaller half. But the whole idea of the internet was the bring the world together, we'd be killing that. And China would win, with it's deeper penetration and willingness to invest and partner, they'd bring much of the world into their information sphere of influence.

    About the potential health issues.. I don't know, and you don't either. It is something to keep an eye on, but if you don't mind I will panic later. Better late than never...
     
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    In my line of work the reality of constant Chinese cyber attacks on government, military, critical infrastructure and industrial networks is as real a thing as the Sun coming up in the morning. The general public has a very limited awareness of the severity of the problem. It is severe enough that placing any trust in networking gear made in China is fool hardy and reckless.
     
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    Well said!

    Do you know anything more about the possibility of China having paid four hundred million dollars for Dominion Software?



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    Really...
    Facebook and google are data mining us as we speak. The US government can legally tap into their data.
    The data is sold to the highest bidder as well. They don't care about your privacy.
    They care about profits and public damage control.

    And here you are having a little freak out that a foreign country might do what is already happening to you.
     
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    Problem is that when you ban them from having the same economic opportunities in the US as say Microsoft has in China... Than Microsoft might lose like a 1/4 of the worlds population as customer / China. It's not that hard to go use some open source whatever. They too can play that game of... it's an economic and national security threat.
     
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