About the Holocaust

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  1. Ronald Hillman

    Ronald Hillman Banned

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    So are you going to provide the evidence or just keep on deflecting?
     
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    how many times will I have to repeat myself. ASKED AND ANSWERED, hire a secretary if you are too lazy to read or goog it. Not my problem ron, I under no obligation to powder your ass, sorry.
     
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  3. Ronald Hillman

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    Ok I think we can see you have no evidence of the claims you made,
    If you ever get any evidence to back up your false claims let me know.

    The question Koko cannot answer!

    Evidence please, who were the Jews that declared war on Hitler and tried to starve them after WW1?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Oh? Really?
    Fine prove my claims are false. Take your time

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  5. Ronald Hillman

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    Run rabbit run!

    The question Koko cannot answer!

    Evidence please, who were the Jews that declared war on Hitler and tried to starve them after WW1?
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    @Kokomojojo has posted proof of Judea's declaration of a "...holy war against Hitler's people" numerous times but I'll save you the trouble of waiting again:

    "Jews Declare War on Germany 1933"
    https://archive.org/stream/JewsDeclareWarOnGermany1933/JewsDeclareWarOnGermany1933_djvu.txt

    EXCERPT "Judea Declares War on Germany!" - Daily Express headline, March 24, 1933.

    "Judea Declares War on Germany! Jews of all the World Unite! Boycott of German Goods!

    Mass Demonstrations!" - These were all headlines in the Daily Express on March 24, 1933.

    "The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany.

    Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany. The Jewish

    wholesaler will forsake his firm, the banker his stock exchange, the merchant his commerce and

    the pauper his pitiful shed in order to join together in a holy war against Hitler's people." - Daily

    Express, March 24, 1933."CONTINUED
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    For more details, please see:

    "Judea declares war on Germany"
    https://www.historiography-project.org/1933/03/24/judea-declares-war-on-germany/

    Dated: March 24, 1933

    "JEWS OF ALL THE WORLD UNITE IN ACTION
    BOYCOTT OF GERMAN GOODS
    MASS DEMONSTRATIONS IN MANY DISTRICTS
    DRAMATIC ACTION"
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    For the same reason that Japanese-Americans were considered a threat to America during WW2 and placed in internment camps, some of Germany's Jews who were not high ranking Nazi Party members(1), supportive of Germany(2) or serving in Hitler's military(3) were placed in internment or work camps.

    Because the American run camps were better supplied and held a more hygienic population they did not have the typhus and similar disease epidemics that were so prevalent in the German run camps. Many of the Eastern Europeans, Poles etc had never seen a shower and, in spite of German efforts, they introduced deadly diseases into the German run camps.

    In spite of residual Allied atrocity propaganda and highly profitable lies told by the Holocaust Industry, the primary killer in the German run camps was disease, not gassings or deliberate starvation(4), (5).


    Thanks,



    (1) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent

    EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED


    (2) "Top 10 Nazi Collaborators Who Were Jews"
    https://listverse.com/2017/01/03/top-10-nazi-collaborators-who-were-jews/


    (3) “Hitler’s Jewish Army”
    http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/

    EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval.

    In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross.

    Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos).

    So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism?

    “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED


    (4) “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas”
    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

    EXCERPT “Dr. Russell Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

    Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” CONTINUED


    (5) “The Holocaust Myth”
    http://www.searchforthetruth.co.uk/holocaust

    EXCERPT “Major Miller of the Allied Military Police HQ in Vienna signed memo/order #31/48 on Oct. 1, 1948 declaring that since the Allied Commissions of Inquiry had established that no one in the 12 German concentration camps was killed by poison gas, that any former inmate maintaining otherwise was to be arrested and charged with perjury.” CONTINUED
     
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    Actually, Google along with U-tube, Wikipedia and other sources has been infected by Israel's paid, trained and scripted Hasbara Trolls(1) so that truthful sources relating to the holocaust are either omitted, censored or located in hard to find places.

    (1) "How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet"
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-partisans-work-censor-internet/

    EXCERPT "As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.

    Israel and partisans of Israel have long had a significant presence on the Internet, working to promote the Israel narrative and block facts about Palestine, the Israel lobby, and other subject matter they wish covered up.

    In addition to these, however, a number of orchestrated, often well-funded projects sponsored by the Israeli government and others have come to light. These projects work to place pro-Israel content throughout the Internet, and to remove information Israel doesn’t wish people to know.

    Under this program, Israeli students are paid $2,000 to work five hours per week to “lead the battle against hostile websites.”

    Campaign to infiltrate Wikipedia

    CAMERA called for volunteers to secretly work on editing Wikipedia entries. It emphasized the importance of keeping the project secret. Volunteers were schooled in ways to elude detection. After they signed up as editors, they were to “avoid editing Israel-related articles for a short period of time.”CONTINUED


    (2) "Google reportedly manipulates search results to hide controversial subjects and favor big business"
    https://www.businessinsider.com/google-manipulates-search-results-report-2019-11

    EXCERPT "But a new Wall Street Journal investigation found that Google manipulated search algorithms in some worrying ways, including prioritizing large businesses over smaller ones, removing autocomplete results that involve sensitive topics like immigration and abortion, and even outright blacklisting some websites." CONTINUED
     
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    Could you explain who was president or PM of Judea in 1933, what were its boarders?.

    Hint( Judea did not exist!)
     
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    p[lease cite any evidence you have proving a declaration of war requires a president or a PM?

    Also please cite ththe necessity of a group of people by whatever name require a border on a map?

    Pure statist mentality, if its not ordained by the state it cant exist, right ron?

    I can feel myself turning into a skeleton and I havent even posted this yet
     
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    How you doing with your evidence for

    The question Koko cannot answer!

    Evidence please, who were the Jews that declared war on Hitler and tried to starve them after WW1?
     
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    A declaration of war is a formal act by which one state goes to war against another. The declaration is a performative speech act (or the signing of a document) by an authorized party of a national government, in order to create a state of war between two or more states.

    The legality of who is competent to declare war varies between nations and forms of government. In many nations, that power is given to the head of state or sovereign. In other cases, something short of a full declaration of war, such as a letter of marque or a covert operation, may authorise war-like acts by privateers or mercenaries. The official international protocol for declaring war was defined in the Hague Convention (III) of 1907 on the Opening of Hostilities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decla...ion_of_formal_declarations_of_war_before_WWII
     
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    Having failed to show any evidence for the Jews declaring war, can we move on to the even funnier idea that they tried to starve the Germans with a food blockade after WW1?
     
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    funny ron, all that is needed is a signatory, read my footer ron, if you have an genuine argument feel free to post it if you want my serious attention.

    if you want to get traction you first need to show cite some kind of court case that their declaration of war is not valid
     
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    So as you have no evidence are you going to withdraw your comment?
     
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    No first you have to show who made the declaration, that is what I have been asking for and what you cannot show, so you deflect.

    Now about that food blockade, hows that going?
     
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    Fine I will be happy to repeat as many times as you ron,

    1) I posted evidence backing my claims .
    2) you posted nothing to back your claims
    3) the fact you dont understand it and cant post anything to prove your claims is not my problem ron

    now how many times do you want to repost the same nonsense?
     
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    I will let the people reading it decide, I do not need to point out the truth it is all there for people to read.
     
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    Not to worry problem is you need to first demonstrate you have truth, they will see you failed.

    Unqualified opinions do not qualify for truth. sorry

    On that note I agree, thankfully the readers will decide! :clapping:
     
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    Koko asked me to read his footnote.

    Grau then provided what he thought was evidence.

    And not even poor evidence for the Jewish food blockade of Germany after WW1
     
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    If you will please read what I already posted earlier, you'll notice that the American Jewish Congress was just one of the international Jewish organizations that mobilized a global, well organized economic war as: "...Fourteen million Jews stand together as one man, to declare war against Germany." in a: "...in a holy war against Hitler's people."

    "The "Express" said that Germany was "now confronted with an international boycott of its trade, its finances, and its industry.... In London, New York, Paris and Warsaw, Jewish businessmen are united to go on an economic crusade." (1)

    I suppose if you wanted to know who the "P.M." or "president" of a Jewish economic war, you would have to name the most influential Jewish banker of the era.

    If I understood the point you're trying to make in raising the Jewish declaration of war on Germany, I might be able to provide a more satisfactory answer.


    (1) "The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany The Economic Boycott of 1933"
    https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/judeadeclareswar.pdf
     
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    What you have is a hyperbolic newspaper article and nothing else, it does not say who these Jews are who declared war in fact all you can show is an economic boycott by a few Jewish groups, and since when has it been war to be able to choose who you buy your goods from?

    From the article you just posted,

    Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the "New Germany" at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime.

    Notice the lie above, I have shown what constitutes a formal declaration of war, where is this formal declaration? who made it?

    Here is what you have!

    The most influential Jewish Banker (you do not even know his name) declared war on germany in 1933, but we have no actual declaration! It is absurd to make these claims with nothing in the way of evidence!

    And still nothing about the food blockade, the Grand Fleet blockaded the Germans in 1919 because the Germans refused to hand over their merchant fleet it had nothing to do with the Jews except in conspiracy theorists heads!
     
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    You always repeat that nonsense. Why don't you learn?
    Zionist propaganda isn't helpful. :(
     
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    They said so, but in fact, they haven't mobilized anyone. If I'm not mistaken, they apologized shortly afterwards for their exaggerated assertion.

    But it was too late. They unfortunately created an argument for future holocaust deniers. Of course, they couldn't have known that at that time. :(
     
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    I often wonder if people who cite the "Jews declared War" bit view BDS as a declaration of war?
     
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    Those who cite "Jews declared war" are often anti-Semites (and/or neo-Nazis), and those who condemn BDS are radical Israel fanboys.

    What might be the intersection? A lot can be philosophized about that.
     
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