'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book

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  1. gorfias

    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    I was kidding. I don't blame Roosevelt: he was a leader trying to maintain courage and resolve. And Trump didn't want to cause a panic with his words, while actually going about actions that made the US safer than we would have been if creepy Joe were in charge but too busy assaulting children to care about lessening the number of people coming from the virus source in China to the USA.
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Are you under the impression that the USG is required, or even should tell the public everything it knows? I rather doubt you are. ;-)
     
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    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    He had one example, Mutti, but he despises her
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The flu does kill thousands. In a sense....it is like the flu.We've had flu's that were very bad. The Scientists were not sure exactly what it was or how it would act. So does Mello Guy propose in hind sight that the President should have played it up and said..."This virus is deadly to ALL, everyone of you, so stay in your houses until I tell you!" The Science has changed it's course. Honestly, given his information, I believe President Trump did quite well.

    Oh, by the way Mello Guy, did you go to China Town for the open street buffet in March as Nanci Pelosi suggested?
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And he loves to kill them with his rallies. He does not give a f... about them
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You all are looking desperately for an October surprise no matter what he said,.
     
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    Trump calling the virus a hoax was, in no way, his showing leadership and protecting the American people.

    Everyone but his most loyal worshipers have known the truth since March. As we've learned new information, we've adapted, because science is a process, not an event.

    There is literally no way to spin this that doesn't make you look utterly blind.

    No, but this virus was not a state secret. See my response above. Intentionally putting Americans in danger is something he can do with the military. He absolutely cannot do it to mere citizens. He made it worse by lying.
     
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    LOL. You realize the person you responded to was voting Trump until this came out? The middle is going to turn. The 60 Minutes piece will not help your team.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And your side loves to project fear in an attempt to win power!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I realize they will win those who look to emotions in spite of results........it's the Marxist Way! Think I watched that show in the 70's. Is it still on?
     
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    You didn't answer the question: are you claiming that Woodward imitated or hired somebody to imitate Trump's voice?

    Because reality is that there is a tape of Trump saying what Woodward claims he said.

    So you can make whatever assumptions you want. But if your assumptions are proven wrong by reality, it's your judgement, not reality, that comes into question. So answer the question: In this case, is your assumption wrong, or is reality wrong?
     
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  13. Curious Always

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    If you think that the bold was his only other option, besides blatantly lying, than you have never seen a true leader in action. I can think of numerous ways he could have approached this that would have been truthful, and not panic inducing, at the same time.
     
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    Which side would that be ?
     
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    At the end of the day, I'm disappointed in myself. I thought Trump was too stupid to understand the science. It turns out, he understood it fine. He's just such a bigger ******* than I gave him credit for. Apologies for that. My bad.
     
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    Inciting a panic would put Americans at risk. Americans know that.
    This story is just another typical DP dud. Try again.
     
  17. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't know what a leader looks like, I guess. You can be honest and not create chaotic panic at the same time. It's totally doable. See Kennedy, Bay of Pigs, as one example. There are an infinite number of examples of true leaders doing the same.

    Also, most of the world's leaders during this exact pandemic.
     
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    A free quote from Mutti :
    This is the biggest crisis our country is facing since WWII and than lay out a plan how to face the crisis, with total agreement of the governors and the cabinet.
    Leadership and no panic.
     
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    so Trump did the same thing China did.. sad!
     
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    The DP should not invoke JFK when they are running with Sleepy Joe Biden. ;-)
     
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    Here's a little snippet of words from me to show just how easy Trump's job was. Note I will be posting as though I got the Feb 28th briefing.

    "Sorry to call everyone to the Rose Garden, but the matter was of such urgency that we would risk the lives of our neighbors if we didn't act. Today, I received a top secret briefing at the highest level pertinent to the situation in China. A less classified version is being sent to the House and Senate, and a declassified version is quickly being put together."

    "The Virus, contrary to Chinese reports is spreading, and I have it on good authority that it's 5 to 10 times more lethal than what we know to be the flu or the common cold. Now, there's no need for alarm because as of yet, there's no cases. Caution however is prudent, so if you know any colleagues or family members who visited China, for a period of 21 days we ask that you keep your distance. The Government is also asking workplaces to allow workers who have vacationed in China a 30-60 day evaluation period at home. We'll cover the cost of lost hours."

    "The same circumstances apply to the EU and I'm using my executive authority as POTUS to instate both China and the EU into the travel ban until such time as the circumstances permit. My fellow Americans, though our times seem uncertain, I believe in the strength of our neighbors and loved ones. I also believe in the strength of my cabinet and in our resolve when things get rough. This is not about politics, I can't be POTUS if I didn't act with all of the power I have to keep us safe.

    I ask the people to trust that there's valid reasons to the steps we just announced. May God bless you and may God bless America."
     
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    should have banned citizens from going there and then coming back at the very least, otherwise what is the point?
     
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    the Trump admin lied about the danger of the virus

    the Trump admin lied and told us masks do not work

    the Trump admin lied and told us 15 going on zero

    and people wonder why people don't Trust the Trump admin
     
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  24. Curious Always

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    Huh? That makes no sense. I'm not a democrat, for starters.

    If you don't think Kennedy was able to tell the truth while not causing a panic, I don't know what to say. Millions of Americans disagree with you.
     
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    I wish I could like this 1,000 times. So many have no clue what real leadership looks like.
     

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