Are You Comfortable With Kamala Harris, "a heartbeat from the presidency".

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Are You Comfortable With Kamala Harris, "a heartbeat from the presidency".

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, she never made the top ten and she campaigned for almost an entire year. The most notable moments of her campaign, which won a lot of media attention, were when she slammed Joe's past racist legislation during a debate, and when she said she believed Tara Reade's sexual allegations against Joe Biden.

    She's an adept, heartless and ruthless prosecutor when it plays to her benefit in the accumulation of personal power.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    The fact is, leftists had a perfect opportunity to show their love for the idea of President Kammy during their own presidential primaries, and they rejected her like she was a moldy pickle at the bottom of the barrel.

    So you'll excuse me if I cast a suspicious eye on your sudden love and devotion to her now that she's a diversity hire.
     
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    It didn't. I don't condone any of that behaviour. That and it's poor management by the left are an embarrassment to the left.

    President Trump has not helped that situation and appears to have used it as an opportunity to divide further. He seems to be completely incapable of undertaking any intelligent dialogue about the crippling social issues that have set the stage for the riots, looting and arson.
     
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    Yeah, but Trump!
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Trump ripped off the mask, and let everybody see the true face of the radical left.

    Yes, it's awful, and ugly, and shocking, but we'll all be better off in the long run for having seen exactly what kind of monster we're dealing with.
     
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    This is an argument that can be very easily turned around. People under duress behave in ugly ways.

    Dehumanizing your opponent is not a path to peace and prosperity ( both sides)
     
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    The rioters are dehumanizing themselves. They're not under duress, they're just throwing temper tantrums because Trump daddy is mean. Trump isn't forcing them to behave like destructive brats.

    Coddling bratty children only makes them brattier.
     
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    I didn't even vote for Trump in 2016 (or Hillary), but he has my vote this year over the specter of a President Kamala Harris.

    Biden started on the tract of being a centrist, someone who could work with both sides of the aisle. Had he chosen a kind-hearted centrist running mate, the idea of him winning 2020 and calming the country wasn't so awful. As soon as he chose Callous Kamala, a Biden "win" became a loss for America.
     
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    Team Joe didn't so much choose Kamala. They more painted themselves into a corner by the "black female VP" blunder, and they were stuck with her because she was the least rotten apple in the bunch.
     
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    Since they were insistent on black and female, Joe would have been better to go with someone more obscure, or at least someone who didn't loudly attack Biden within the last 12 months. lol

    Susan Rice would have been a good "mainstream" Democrat establishment choice. The "average voter" doesn't know a lot about her except perhaps that she has high-level government experience, enough to qualify her to take over the presidency when Biden's health fails. VP picks are usually background support for the candidate, not the outspoken star of the team.
     
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    I have not completely figured her out. She seems a little Hillaryesque. I have yet to see a problem, and I certainly feel comfortable with her campaign style and most of her voting record, but I literally knew nothing about her before this campaign started so I am still a tad uneasy.
     
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    You're wrong. It makes her a citizen, not a "natural born citizen," as the constitution requires for a VP or President. A "natural born citizen" is someone born on US soil to citizen parents, and she wasn't.

    Both her father and mother were foreign nationals; one from Jamaica, and the other from India. She is clearly, and without doubt, NOT a natural-born citizen as required by our constitution.
     
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    She has less than one full-term in the Senate. She made a national name for herself trashing Kavanaugh. Her voting record during her short stint as a legislator is one of the most far-left liberal.
     
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    It's called "Constitutionalism." Something you're obviously unfamiliar with, and have no regard for.

    We now have a Democratic presidential ticket where one is mentally unfit to serve, and the other constitutionally unfit to serve.
     
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    I trust her as much as I would trust another Bush/Bama/Clinton. She's precisely the same sociopathic career puppet/prostitute to the establishment they all were.

    Which is to say I trust her not at all.
     
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    Kamala simply has no moral scruples. I'll never forgot her partisan political performance in attacking Justice Kavanaugh with false accusations. Meanwhile she ran political ads highlighting her extreme partisan loyalty by emphasizing how shrewdly she assassinated the man's character. Those ads raised her national profile and brought in money to assist her presidential aspirations.

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    https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/never...uel-lies-in-the-kavanaugh-confirmation-fight/
     
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    Freudian slip here, I'm sure...even though she appears to be reading off a teleprompter.

    "A Harris Administration, together with Joe Biden...."

     
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    Most of what I learned of value, I learned from looking at her stint as a prosecutor and as California AG. All I am left to wonder is what her actual views are on three strikes laws. The rest is in line with a fairly solid prosecutorial record, and a fairly 'liberal' view of some of the legal and law enforcement issues. She is willing to enforce, and still try to keep a sense of community and compassion. Its a fine line involving compromise for a California prosecutor that she appears to walk to my satisfaction.
     
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    Btw, Pence is a brainwashed buffoon, an empty shirt with an even emptier head.
     
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    She has flipped on her law enforcement stance from her previous stints as District Attorney of San Francisco and then AG for California to after her Congressional win. It's like two entirely different people. She's a climber and a chameleon politician. She is not popular with minorities in California because she threw so many people in jail on minor drug charges.
     
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    Yeah, but Pence!
     
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    be specific and offer links. I fully expect that any prosecutor or defense attorney or Ag will 'flip' their stances on some issues depending on the role they are playing. That is the nature of advocacy and the legal profession. It is also true that any attorney that does not 'evolve' some as he or she gains a different perspective due to changing professions, is a legal manikin. The world looks very different to a law professor, a civil rights attorney, a prosecutor , a litigator, legislator or a judge though all may have law degrees..Its all about context and whether the change has a natural catalyst.

    That simplistic sentence about her prosecuting 'minor drug crimes' with recommendations for jail time tells me you have no clue what I am talking about Of course she did! Hard to envision anybody in that role for any length of time who didn't. There are some pretty nasty characters who all you can get to stick, is that damn 'minor drug charge' Can't blame the Dept of Justice and FBI for ramming Capone for decades on an IRS charge either.

    This is not a black and white kind of job.
     
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    It's a binary equation, and perversely symmetrical.

    Both candidates are antiques, and while Biden looks a lot healthier than the orangutan, the odds of either Veep becoming Prez are not-trivial.

    Which means he's still a brainwashed buffoon.
     
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    I vetted Kamala (and other candidates) during most of 2019 while she was a candidate, reading multiple opinion polls and articles about what people liked and more importantly didn't like about her. If I'm writing a "simplistic sentence" a year or more later, it is simple knowledge acquired through reading dozens of articles. Sorry, I'm not going to spend an hour or two posting dozens or perhaps a hundred links to articles and past polls. The truth is out there.

    Kamala doesn't matter for the black vote anyway. Biden was the most popular candidate with the black demographic of all the potential nominees throughout the primaries, followed by Warren and Sanders. Kamala was "hired" to appeal to middle- and upper-class liberal white women. That's where Trump is losing ground and Biden wasn't doing much to gain ground, but Kamala is very well-liked in that demographic.
     
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    With due respect, that is pure speculation - and I further suggest oversimplification, just like Trump.

    Technically it's dehumanization as well (from the perpsective of social science) - assigning simple tropes and only the capacity to experience gross emotions to the 'other'. Or, in common parlance you had a mind fart.

    I'm not particularly picking on you, btw, almost everyone on the board does it.
     

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