WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

Irrelevant. The other officer saw the gun and did not see it as a threat

 

You've been unable to support that claim. I refer you to my last reply to you: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ver-video-game.576622/page-23#post-1072048463

 

More bovine excrement!

The gun is still INSIDE the apartment when the door is opened so the Contact officer can see the gun and does NOT shoot.

The poorly trained officer could NOT see the gun until the victim stepped outside and was lowering the gun to the ground when the KILLER cop PANICKED and opened fire MURDERING the victim.

 

I remember being on the receiving end of a 2am no knock warrant. I was on the landing between 1st and 2nd floors; my AK47 aimed over the banister. I (or one of my roommates) shouted, "We're armed!", because we knew people were in the house. When I found out it was the police, I remember my thought process changing from unknown threat to confront to cops can't come around the corner and see me with this gun. So I repositioned so that when the cops rounded the corner they wouldn't be staring down my barrel.

I could have easily been killed like this guy if I had surprised the police with my armed presence. Because there isn't much time for the officer to process the information, I remain convinced that, based on these videos alone,the primary contributing factor to the man's death was surprising the officers with an armed presence.

 

The other officer didn't fire, you must only watch the footage from the cover officer's viewpoint.

 

Just watch the footage.

 

You're the only one here talking bull. What the contact officer sees is irrelevant, you should only watch things from the cover officer's viewpoint. Watch the footage and you can see the cover officer see the gunman bring the weapon around from the small of his back towards the contact officer.

 

More BS from you. What the Webcam of the cover officer shows is the victim move his gun from the direction towards the contact officer at the moment he opened the door to the small of his back at the moment he saw the officer. You can't keep your story straight!

 

You, and only you, are making that bogus allegation.

The contact officer sees the gun and does NOT fire.

The cover officer PANICS and MURDERS the victim as he is putting DOWN the gun.

That is what the videos show happened.

 

The footage doesn't show that he, as you say, brings the gun round to his front.

 

Our police force, country wide, needs longer training. Cops shouldn't be so fearful for their lives that they shoot someone for lawfully bringing a gun to the door in the middle of the night.

He immediately started kneeling down. He never pointed his gun.

 

What timing point in the video? Link: https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops...plaint-over-video-game-AsvFt-AHpkeQlcgNj5qiTA

 

Yes I can, the gunman has the pistol in the small of his back and moves it around his side towards the contact officer.

 

You should only watch the cover officer, he see the gunman take the pistol from the small of his back, around his side towards the contact officer, that is the long, the short and tall of it.

 

No, not to his front, around his side.

 

At 34 seconds.

 

And you call that "bringing it to bear on the contact officer?"

 

That is NOT what is in the video!

 

Actually, I think the gun was already behind his back when he answers the door. Then he clearly moves it to his right hand side at the same time as lowering himself to the ground, which is certainly no reason to be shot. Also, from what I can tell, a single frame seems to show his right hand raised with no gun right before he is shot. To me it looks like he actually dropped the gun. I may be the only person in the thread who is saying that.

 

You can see the gun at the 14s mark of the contact officer's webcam in the link you posted few hours ago. Other than that, I agree with what you have written

 

Yes. What do you think that demonstrates?

 

The contact officer would also have seen the gun and saw that it was no threat to him

 

Yeah, but the cover officer doesn't know that. When he saw the gun behind the guy's back, he may have reasonably assumed that the much further away contact officer couldn't see the gun. Then when he saw the gun move to the side of the guy, he may have thought that the guy was about to engage the contact officer. That's the only possible reason for firing that I can think of. The problem is that the guy looks nothing other than in total 'surrender mode' as he moves to the ground with his left hand VERY much raised.

 

Yes. Grab a water pistol or whatever, conceal it in the small of your back and then bring it around your side, you see you naturally bring it to bear to your front. Now do it in a side view so that you see what the cover officer saw.

 

Of course it is. Didn't you watch it?