McConnell vows Trump's nominee to replace Ginsburg will get Senate vote, setting up historic fight

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  1. 3link

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    McConnell vows Trump's nominee to replace Ginsburg will get Senate vote, setting up historic fight



    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/18/politics/congress-fight-rgb-seat/index.html

    Wait. This can't be right. I thought McConnel said that the Senate can't vote on a nominee to the Supreme Court during an election year. This headline must be fake. Maybe the Trumpers are right. CNN is fake news. FAKE NEWS I SAY. Because the only alternative is that conservatives are hypocrites. And that is INCONCEIVABLE.

    Wait. Fox News is reporting it, too?
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-supreme-court-nominee-vote-floor
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What would democrats do if they were in the same position? This Supreme Court seat will live far beyond Trump’s 2 terms, so I say Trump should go for it.

    Allow me to quote a man who has almost been entirely erased: elections have consequences.
     
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    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    Would anyone need anything besides this indication by McConnell to prove what a total scumbag he really is a complete and total hypocrite.
     
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  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol when libs accuse others of being hypocrites.
     
  5. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You deliberately avoided the point because you simply can't defend what Mitch is doing.

    Obviously Dems would seek to replace Ginsburgh if they were in Mitch's position. But you forget that Mitch declined to hold a vote for Garland, who was Obama's nominee when Scalia died in February 2016. Mitch's reasoning was that it was an election year. And at that point the election was nine months away.

    Here we are less than two months from the election and Mitch is vowing that Trump's nominee will get a vote in the Senate.
     
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  6. Steve N

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    It’s politics, just like being against illegals and then being for them. Just like putting blacks in jail and then calling them victims. Just like saying a particular party has to nominate a person who’s colored and then nominating a white guy.
     
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    BringDownMugabe Well-Known Member

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    ^^ definition of whataboutism
     
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    I find it extremely hypocritical that the left frequently cites whataboutism when they have numerous posters on this board who are whataboutism world champions. There’s this guy who’s kinda mellow who can’t join a thread without dragging Trump or cops into it. Did you weigh in on those posts?
     
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    ^^ Lol complains about "whataboutism" and then proceeds to talk about cops in a thread about the Senate voting to replace Ginsburg. :roll:
     
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    well the left hated the biden rule...time to change
     
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    5 Times Mitch McConnell Said We Shouldn’t Confirm a SCOTUS Justice in an Election Year

    ...

    They include:

    February 13, 2016: “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice,” McConnell said in a statement released after Scalia’s death. “Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”

    Full statement from Senate Majority Leader McConnell on Scalia: pic.twitter.com/27VmyVMOy4

    — John McCormack (@McCormackJohn) February 13, 2016

    February 23, 2016: “I can now confidently say the view shared by virtually everybody in my conference, is that the nomination should be made by the president the people elect in the election that’s underway right now,” McConnell told reporters following Senate Republicans’ first closed-door meeting after Scalia’s death. “I believe the overwhelming view of the Republican Conference in the Senate is that this nomination should not be filled, this vacancy should not be filled by this lame duck president…The American people are perfectly capable of having their say on this issue, so let’s give them a voice. Let’s let the American people decide. The Senate will appropriately revisit the matter when it considers the qualifications of the nominee the next president nominates, whoever that might be.”

    March 16, 2016: “The Senate will continue to observe the ‘Biden rule’ so that the American people have a voice in this momentous decision on who to name to the court,” McConnell said in a floor speech the day Obama nominated Garland.

    May 18, 2016: Reacting to a forum called by Senate Democrats to discuss the lingering nomination of Garland, a statement from McConnell’s office called it a “sham hearing” and claimed Democrats were being hypocritical about the need to confirm Garland in an election year: “It seems the more we hear from Democrats about the Supreme Court the more we’re reminded by comparison of how reasonable and common-sense the Republican position is today.”

    August 6, 2016: “One of my proudest moments was when I looked at Barack Obama in the eye and I said, ‘Mr. President, you will not fill this Supreme Court vacancy,'” McConnell told supporters at a political event in his home state of Kentucky.

    ... https://www.motherjones.com/2020-el...preme-court-confirmation-ruth-bader-ginsburg/

    Rank hypocrisy, party over country, and trampling the rule of law when it is politically convenient. That is what the Republican Party stands for today. They are the enemy of the people.
     
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    You're right.
    But I heard someone mention that a Democratic Congress and a President Biden could expand the Court.
    Allowing Biden to appoint maybe 4 or 6 Justices.

    Elections have consequences.
     
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    and we knw how the media will play this one....
     
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    It's in the Senate's remit. The Current Senate's term doesn't expire for four months.

    One might question the political wisdom of publicly pushing for a vote after an election that shifted the Senate's balance to an opposing party, but that isn't the case here. The public's will measured just a year and a half ago is controlling and must be respected in its legal construction.

    Now, the larger dilemma for Democrat leadership. Do you work to stop any appointment now or do you work with Senate Republicans and the President to accept a more moderate jurist?

    Big gamble. If Trump wins reelection and the Senate doesn't flip the President's nominee will be very different from one negotiated today. Orders of magnitude different.

    Cheers
     
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    Well we won't let that happen!
     
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    What if Trump steps in and says we should wait. What if this is actually a ploy by the RNC and Trump to let Trump swoop in and pretend to take the high road? Not only does it make him look good, it gives millions of voters who might not like him a potential reason to vote for him. If he appoints now, he doesn't have that selling point in the election.

    I mean he just tried to buy Puerto Rican votes by letting them have the money they had already been authorized to receive but has been withheld by the Trump administration.
     
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    Counting chickens?
     
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    He's doing exactly what he said he would do. It's the Biden rule. No Supreme Court nominees during and election year when the President is a second term lame duck President. Trump is a first term President. If you don't like the rule, talk to Biden.
     
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    Except Geoge H. Bush was in his first term when Biden allegedly invented that rule. Care to try again?
     
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    I’ll admit to wanting to do what’s best for our country, culture and way of life.
     
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    The President picks the Senate consents. What's the problem exactly?
     
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    Here, I made this just for you:

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    Do you recall, in the interest of full disclosure, what was Senator Schumer's position on SCOTUS nominees getting an up-or-down vote?
     
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    No. I’m talking about one of your fellow posters.
     
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    they must seize this moment of weakness in their political adversaries.
     
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