The war of partisan politics is destroying the country

A country is at its best when there is a healthy balance between liberals and conservatives. Both types are necessary. A monopoly by either one lacks important contributions from the other.

The striving to vanquish the opposite party is wrong and damaging to the country. Habitual disparaging of adversaries undermines unity. Reliance on vicious partisan rhetoric that serves party interests does not serve the interests of the country.

We need a bipartisan committee to call out and denounce those who say and do things that undermine our democracy. 51:50 – 1:24



The war between the two parties has gone way too far, as if the end justifies the means. Some of the immoral strategies employed to influence voters are unconscionable. For example, civil disturbance, strife, fear, and insecurity are being fostered so that candidates can make attractive sounding promises of corrective alleviations and positive rewards. The worst-case outcome of this is mass persuasion of young gullible voters.

 

In as far as Mr Trump was a (middle finger) if you will, we need a real third party to win and put both on notice you no longer hold a monopoly.

 

We've had a viable third party for decades, the Libertarian Party. It offers too much principle and not enough drama for the average voter.

 

The hyper-partisan battle of today won't end until its run its course. Its gone way beyond sitting down and agreeing to be nice to each other. It ends when one side is utterly defeated by the rejection of its ideas by the electorate...

 

There is no partisan divide in Washington.

“Republicans formally took over the House that Wednesday, January 5. … Such benchmark days in the institution mix a sense of slight renewal with a hammering sameness. Former members and sparkling lobbyist and musty perennials wander the wide halls past lost newcomers. Voters might have turned out the old and the entrenched in the wave election of 2010. But one of the palpable messages of a day like that says that Club membership is for life.” Mark Leibovich, This Town, Penguin Books, 2013, p.199.

The only real conflict is the one between the radical anti-establishment Trump and the "permanent political class" -
AKA The Swamp.

 

What needs to be rejected and utterly defeated is the radical element in one side or the other (or probably both sides), not an entire side. If the voters respond sensibly, the present obvious contaminations will be too great a cost to the afflicted party, causing that party to disown those who foster objectionable ideas. One wonders how those mongrels ever got elected in the first place and what can be done about their malicious source of support.

 

Its already happening. The radical left has resorted to rioting over every little thing. The mainstream left can't support that much longer, especially when case after case is proven to be based on lies and misinformation...

 

What?? Consider the ones who said they would like to see the White House burned down or the President tarred & feathered. They got promptly visited by the authorities. No partisan divide? They do have much in common: they're politicians motivated mainly by self-interests.

2010 is old history. The House is largely the domain of the Democrats.

 

There is no war between two parties. There is an internal war within the Republican Party. Democrats just happened to take the side of the moderates in that internal war. If Republican moderates regain control of their party, we will go back to a healthy bipartisan system (as healthy as a bipartisan system can be). If they don't, then the internal struggle is not likely to end soon. This war is internal. Democrats can do nothing to end it. Republicans will have to figure out on their own who they want to be. The party with a lack of a moral direction (favored by racists and white supremacists), or the party of conservatives. They are not compatible. But Republicans will have to settle that fight on their own.

 

The vast majority of republicans are pro-Trump or as a minimum anti-democrat. Tune into any station you want and you will find the democrats bashing Trump and the republicans bashing democrats.

 

Well... I tuned into this one and... these Republicans don't appear to be bashing democrats.

Oh... I know... You're going to call them RINOs. But that's what they call you. It's the internal fight within the Republican Party. It is expressed in one simple question: who are the real RINOs?

 

There's your partisan divide

 

Clue. "I tuned into this one and"

 

The conflict within the Republican Party is one thing, but with Omar, AOC, Nadler, "shifty" Shif (if that's his name), Pelosi, etc all lined up against the President (and sometimes foaming at the mouth while dispensing vitriol) I call that kind of desperate fervor by one party a war. Also, the Russian issue is pending indictments for falsification of dosiers. None of that was supposed to be exposed, but it was because Hillary lost.

 

"One" refers to group. Not one person.

 

Wait...weren't you whining about the partisan divide?

 

Who's Hillary?

Looks like this is as far as that supposed "call" to end some "war between the two parties" goes. So let's just tag this whole thread as pure hypocrisy.

It's within your own party that there is a war. Leave Democrats out of it. We're just standing on the sidelines and watching Republicans eat their own. The fact that the side we root for is not yours is your problem, not ours.

 

You showed "one" example. Only one. Unity.

 

Yes, unfortunately this how it has to happen and what is happening this cycle. The reason voting fraud is the hot topic of discussion and there is a bull rush for a SC nomination.

It’s odd for a legitimate party to believe a large turnout of voters is a an automatic election loss. The party needs to examine that belief to turn itself around.

I don’t believe a third Party can exist here without acquiring the infrastructure from one of the two existing Party’s. But, that wouldn’t be a third Party merely a reconstituted second.

 

Name the value leftist bring to the table that is worth having?

 

Hillary Clinton, as if you couldn't have guessed after after all the whining by those indicted or facing certain indictment. They were the ones openly blaming her for their exposure as transgressors.

Your comment implies that the cited Youtube discourse is also hypocrisy. That's a hard sell. What does sell easily is your bias.

Typical democratic vote-getting position. "We're just innocently standing by....". In view of the past performances of AOC and others, that sure doesn't hold water.

 

I don't really think there is a legitimate other side. There's good and there's evil. There are temporary deals you can make with the devil, like WWII, but in the end, evil is still evil and you have to remain vigilant, or the evil can sneak back in like's happening now.

 

Worth having? That depends on your ideology.....

Try...freedom from entrenched poverty, as in "You are living in poverty...."): Trump (2016, looking for votes), to the residents of black inner city ghettos.

Admittedly Biden won't make it happen, but AOC might be able to give him some clues.

 

We've been fighting that are since 1966. We've spent more than the entire GDP if planet earth on it and all we have to show for it is a poverty line ten times higher that when we started and more homeless people. Oh and the largest most expensive administrative state the world has ever seen. It should be clear to anyone by now that governments cannot end poverty, and when they try to they simply make it worse.

 

No it should be clear by now you have been using the wrong methods.....

Just consider the resources, know-how and productive capacity of the US, and realize something is very wrong with the system...

Meanwhile, China has lifted 800 million out of absolute poverty, raised 300 million into the middle class, built dozens of complete brand new cities and connected them with the world's largest high speed rail network.

...and btw, a recent Harvard study shows satisfaction of mainland Chinese with their government to be greater than 90%, as would be expected with such a dramatic change in living standards since 1980.

Ellen Brown is impressed:

https://ellenbrown.com/2019/06/14/the-american-dream-is-alive-and-well-in-china/

Surely the USA can lift a paltry 40 million out of poverty - and bulldoze those ghettos...