There is literally no reason to vote for Trump

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  1. Lucifer

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    Considering the law of Unintended Consequences, we may not know for years to come what the end result will be for US actions against Syria.
     
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    There never was a logical reason to vote for him in the first place.
     
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    What war did Carter start?
     
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    The Birther movement was strongly pushed by Clinton supporters at first. Snopes ran interference and obfuscated who was the actual creators, but one point remains crystal clear. This was before Donald Trump. Stop blaming him.
     
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    When every Republican is Hitler, the casting process should go like...blitzkrieg.
     
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    In terms of economics or efficiency for that matter going from 60% to 70% is easier than 70% to 80% etc.

    Again, none of that changes the fact that if the economy slumped prior to the pandemic, you would be blaming Trump. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. So let's stop pretending you're being impartial.

    Fact. After Trump took office the economy continued to grow. End fact.

    You know why you have to qualify your facts with whataboutisms? Because they aren't really facts.

    Lol. Now I'm being lectured about facts by somebody that has been shown to present cherry picked facts, apply personal opinion rational, and present them as undisputable facts.

    Good lord.

    ready for some facts?

    Employment figures for black Americans show that they enjoyed the highest employment rates and highest compensation rates is history under Trump.

    Now, go ahead and apply your whataboutisms because that FACT isn't convenient to your narrative.

    More facts? Alot more important? Or is that an opinion? Do you know the difference?

    So police endorsements for Trump bad. Military support for Biden good.

    Lol. Do you not see your own blatent partisanship?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it means avoiding the world the progressive left pushes on this forum daily, thats the only reason to vote for Trump.

    I dont want to live in a country that looks like liberal leftists urban utopia. No thanks. Keep that nonsense in your liberal cities and leave the rest of the country alone.
     
  8. quiller

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    So a group of literal armchair generals opposes Trump --- and the claim was made here that this somehow represented military support? Puhleeze. Somebody 'splain here how those directly equate.
     
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    So it's a no then ;)
     
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    Hahaha! Your propaganda aside there are plenty of reasons to vote for Trump.
     
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    Yeah, he's the worst candidate to run, except for all the others.

    Given the current mental state of people, I think we should remove names from the ballot. Vote for concepts, such as a choice between law and order, or anarchy. Between economic growth and security or socialism. Between your personal independence and freedom, or subsidized dependency on a nanny government. Maybe do it with pictures, because so many have trouble visualizing what those things actually mean. It's pretty clear we need to dumb it down for a lot of people, who are old enough to vote but not smart enough to vote wisely.
     
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    Sorry but there wasn't one single solitary fact in the mess to which you responded. And your response did little to improve upon a horrible start.
     
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    So then Bill Clinton renewed the War with Iraq long before Bush ever came to power? Or does that only work when a Republican us president?
     
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    While he didn't start a war, he certainly was on the wrong side in Iran backing the Shah, resulting in the latter's ouster and setting up the chain of events that gave the world the radical Islamic state we have there today.
     
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    2A.

    As it is, we can't vote ourselves into any trouble that we can't fight our way back out of. Trump is the only option to keep it that way. All the other options want to reduce our access to weaponry, imo to reduce our ability to resist authoritarianism.
     
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    Your guns won't be of any use against authoritarianism.
     
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    It wasn't Iran that gave rise to that. It was the US getting involved in Afghanistan in a proxy war against the Soviets with the intent to bankrupt the Soviets and so training and funding Arab extremists let out of jails to fight rather than Democratic minded Afghans because the US knew that the Arab fanatics would not be likely to come to a truce like the Democratic Afghans.
     
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    A ridiculous statement. Care to try to explain why you think that?
     
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    Your little guns against an airforce or miltary army using their "bigger" weapons won't get you far
     
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    In what scenario do you suppose I would be fighting against 'an air force or military'?
     
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    Riiiiiight! Only if your aim is bad.
     
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    Perhaps you could explain how a government becomes "authoritarianism" without the backing of their army?
     
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    Chuck Norris is getting on, see, and they saw your username here and thought you perfect for.....
    Okay, would you believe....
     
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    Ordinary people with guns have been able to stop the full force of the US military industrial complex in its tracks for over 75 years now. Guns work.
     
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    Pretty sure Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini was Iranian, not Afghani...
     
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