Study Shows Significant Link Between Mercury and Autism

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  1. phoenyx

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    STORY AT-A-GLANCE
    • A September 2020 meta-analysis concludes there is a significant relationship between autism and concentrations of lead and mercury in the body
    • According to the researchers, mercury concentration is a pathogenic cause for autism, meaning it’s a causative factor
    • According to a 2014 review, there is evidence of malfeasance and conflicts of interest in studies claiming that thimerosal in vaccines is safe
    • Serious flaws and errors also plague studies that claim aluminum in vaccines is safe. A mathematical error found in a key FDA study has reignited concerns about the safety of aluminum in vaccines
    • Glutathione is the dominant agent that binds to and helps move mercury and other heavy metals out of your tissues. Part of effective detox involves upregulating your biochemistry to facilitate the mobilization and elimination of metals

    Full article: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/10/13/is-mercury-linked-to-autism.aspx

    I've long been against vaccines of any kind, not just vaccines that contain mercury and aluminum, so for me, this article is just preaching to the choir. However, there is new info here that I hadn't known and much of this may be news to others here, so I thought I'd share.
     
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    So you’ve been against vaccines for a long time and have managed to find information that confirms your bias from a source known for peddling pseudoscience and quackery.
    What’s that called again?
     
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    What -you're- doing is clear. If you find flaws in the actual research as opposed to your own biases against the source, let me know.
     
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    I don’t have to be able to debunk their claims to know that experts in the field already have.

    Mercola is know for publishing bad information.

    Analysis / Bias

    In review, Mercola and colleagues advocate a number of unproven alternative health notions including homeopathy, while promoting anti-vaccine positions. Further, in 2011, Joseph Mercola donated 1 million dollars to an organization that opposes vaccinations. They also claim increased cancer risks from mobile devices, which has been labeled pseudoscience by the consensus of scientists. In general, they frequently promote pseudoscience and make false claims.”
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mediabiasfactcheck.com/mercola/?amp

    But hey, I’m sure peer reviewed studies are going to once and for all confirm what has been debunked over and over.
     
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    I'm just wondering why anyone would think "just a little bit of Mercury" would be a good thing. Especially when distributing it throughout the entire population. This is like some serious Dr Megele kind of shyte...
     
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    This kind of thinking is what leads to the discovery of a flat earth.
     
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    Ever eat fish?
     
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    They have done maga studies on this for years. In fact they completed one in "15 and again in "10 or "12. Those studies were long term studies of 20 years and they showed there is no link. In fact they stopped using mercey around 2000. Autism and vaccine are not linked. That has been debunked for years
     
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    I has polio when I was a kid. I can also remember sitting at the table when my grandparents had company. They were all born around 1900. They also all had memories of diseases that killed that are simply gone now.

    Vaccines are one of the great accomplishments of civilisation.
     
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    Couldn’t agree more. Roughly 17 in 1,000 children are born with autism in the US. Even if there were definitive proof that vaccines were the cause, there is currently no evidence to back that up, vaccines have saved literally millions of lives. I’ll take that any day of the week.
     
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    Ok let us again deal with an old issue. People have automatically assumed if mercury is in vaccines, it automatically gives people autism and other illnesses. This perception that if mercury is found the preservative for vaccines it causes autism, asthma, cancer, etc.

    This assumption is based on false assumptions.

    In fact vaccines that do containing (mercurial) thimerosal are no longer given to children in the U.S.

    It MAY be used in vaccines given to children in other countries.

    Some people need to do research before they read web-sites with simplistic false conclusions:

    Here please start with:

    https://www.parents.com/health/vaccines/controversy/mercury-and-vaccines/

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/pa...downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal-color-office.pdf

    and then:

    https://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20021203/mercury-levels-in-vaccines-are-safe#1

    "Our most important finding was that not a single child had a blood mercury level which exceeded the most stringent safety standards -- those set by the Environmental Protection Agency [EPA]," lead researcher Michael E. Pichichero, MD, tells WebMD. "We also showed that the mercury in vaccines is eliminated from the body six to seven times faster than has been predicted."

    In the study, reported Nov. 30 in The Lancet, Pichichero and colleagues from New York's University of Rochester Medical Center examined mercury levels in the blood, urine, and stool of 40 infants given vaccinations containing thimerosal and 21 infants who received thimerosal-free vaccines. All infants received diphtheria-tetanus-acellular pertussis (DtaP) and hepatitis B vaccines, and some were also given an Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine. These immunizations are typically given to children at the ages of 2 months, 4 months, and 6 months.

    All of the children were found to have mercury levels below the EPA's public safety limit of 5.8 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL). Most had blood mercury levels ranging from 1 to 2 ng/mL, and the highest level found was 4.11 ng/mL."
     
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    Why change the subject?
     
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    He didn't.
     
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    You know there’s Mercury in fish, yes?
     
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    In some fish. Do you suppose that mercury is safe to consume in unlimited portions then?
     
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    My god, when will we learn not to immunize fish????
     
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    In most fish.
    Where did I claim “unlimited portions” of anything is healthy or safe?
    What makes you think that vaccines contain “unlimited portions” of Mercury?
     
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    Sodium explodes on contact with water. Do you explode when you eat salt? Vaccines have mercury compounds in them. Not pure mercury. Compounds make a difference.

    The amount of mercury in vaccines is miniscule. You get more from a can of tuna. A lot more. It's fine.
     
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    Water isn't safe in unlimited portions! You MUST stop drinking water!
     
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    Do Fish equate to thimerosal? Would you assert that the exposure of one is the same as the other? If not, it seems like changing the subject. Can you help us by showing how much mercury is "safe" to consume and at what age/body weight? I mean, you're trying to be scientific, no?
     
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    Seems like fish differentiate by species and contain differing levels of contamination, or didn't you consider that? More, quantify what is "safe" then. If, as you suggest thimerosal is "safe" show the work. The OP citation seems to demonstrate why your faith here is miscast.
     
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    You can find fish that are extremely high in mercury, particularly here in Maine. The midwest has generously spread the stuff across the state.

    Not really into goofy kinds of paranoia..
     
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    Why change the subject? Show us that thimerosal in the dosage that you receive is "safe". tic tok....
     
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    So why spread it yourself?
     
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    Certain species of fish, particularly dark-meated, deep-water fish have higher concentrations too. Not really an issue for 99.99999999% of people, though.
     
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