Huge poll numbers a huge setup

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Pollsters are pushing numbers showing a double digit lead for Biden with a 95% probability of winning. Obvious question is what happens if and when Trump is victorious.
    Answer is democrats will spend four years saying Trump couldn't have possibly won and polls couldn't possibly have been that wrong. Congress will launch a new investigation like the Russian collusion fraud that drug on for years. It looks to me like democrats know Biden will lose and are setting the table for the next chaos agenda for Trumps second term
     
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    LOL
     
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    I do think you have something there. Trump support is enthusiastic. Not so for the drooling old man who's "running for the Senate", and Kamala the Communist. They are playing to four more years of "resist".
     
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    They should investigate themselves.
     
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    That or once again they will simultanously insist that none of the polls were really showing soundly defeated Biden all that far ahead and yet also claim that they PROVED that Biden should have won.

    As we edge nearer and nearer to November, expect the polling to magically tighten up and show Trump and Biden neck and neck . . . just like they did in 2016 at the end between Hillary and Trump . . . after months of consistently showing Hillary hugely ahead. Like I wrote . . . magic.
     
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    Pollsters are in the business of providing as accurate of polls as they can. That is their product. People won't buy their product if it's not worth anything.

    Many pollsters revised their methods after 2016. Does that mean they will now be perfect? Of course not. Polling itself is 1/2 illusion and 1/2 reality even at the best of times when trying to gauge the opinions of 300+ million people by asking 1500 of them.

    But from all appearances, even internal polling by Republicans are showing roughly the same results as the public polling. Otherwise the Republicans would not be worried about Trump's chances and the prospect of him dragging them all down too. Republicans aren't going to employ pollsters for their private polling who are biased towards Democrats, they're going to employ pollsters that give them as real of information as they can.

    The polls are not a lock on anything. But the idea that it's a conspiracy is, just like most everything else regarding Trump, laughable.
     
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    Whoa! You're getting wayyyyy ahead of yourself. Something dramatic will have to take place for Trump to catch up.

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    The "something dramatic" would no doubt influence what happens after the election.
    They didn't do that the last time.
     
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    Pollsters learned some valuable lessons last time.

    The same mistakes won't happen again.

    The polls are (essentially) accurate.

    Trump WILL be DEFEATED.

    That said:

    IF--Donald Trump (A Mentally-Deficient IDIOT--With No Grasp of Reality) wants to think that "The Polls Were Wrong Last Time, They are Gonna be Wrong Again"...
    THEN--I see no reason to question his Moronic DELUSION.

    Trump is headed to a Crushing Defeat, Trump KNOWS that.

    Thus, Trump's only coping mechanism is "But Hillary, But the Polls Last Time".

    Trump has No Grasp of Reality
    Trump is a Mindless Imbecile in Desperate Need of a coping mechanism.

    Trump Fails to Grasp what Everybody Already KNOWS:

    Trump is headed to a Crushing Defeat.
     
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    I disagree completely.

    There WON'T be any tightening of the polls (as occurred in 2016).
     
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    Apparently nobody on the Left expected tightening of the polls just before election day 2016 . . . either.
     
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    "Once again?" They didn't do this over Useless Hillary's loss in 2016. Are you making stuff up? Did you hear this nonsense in a rightwing echo chamber?
     
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    I've thought the same thing myself with these outrageous polls... It will be another angle to take once Trump "miraculously" wins... that Trump "cheated" somehow... These people are sick... Satanic-level sick...

    For example, in my State of Wisconsin, Biden is supposedly up by anywhere from 6-10 points (currently leaning more towards the 10 than the 6), but my "on the ground" findings are anything BUT that... Trump has great support here in Wisconsin, and while I don't expect a landslide win for him here (I expect a rather close result, similar to 2016), I do expect Trump to win by at least as much as he did last time, if not a bit more.
     
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    "Nobody?" A rather absurd claim.
     
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    This is what I am interested to see, and we will know what angle they will take... If they get really close in a couple weeks, then they'll do what they did in 2016... I, however, don't think that they will tighten up at all. I think that they will remain this outrageous and Dems will claim that Trump "cheated", since polls couldn't possibly have been so wrong...

    We'll see. :)
     
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    You must think this country is a terrible place. Have you considered alternatives?
    Your ... "findings?" :rolleyes: OMG.
     
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    Was the Russian collusion investigation that drug on for years a conspiracy to bring down Trump? Recent emerging evidence says absolutely.

    Biden was picked to run pre Covid when Trump was considered unbeatable and democrats were stuck with this pathetic candidate post covid.
    Even with covid though Biden can't get any support while Trump crowds are bigger and more enthusiastic than ever.
    If you're a democrat or part of the ruling elites and you know Biden will lose there's nothing left but to discredit a Trump victory as illegitimate.
    Not so long ago Gore was pronounced the victor based on exit polls and the Bush win was called illegitimate.
    This will be that times one hundred.
     
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    Nope, and nope. I love this country; that's why I am voting TRUMP. **** the Demonrats who wish to turn it into a tyrannical communist hell hole with no freedoms, only subservient to the federal government (and ultimately global government). TRUMP 2020!!!! Your freedoms as you know them fully depend on it.

    Yes, my findings. I frequently travel all over South and Central Wisconsin, you see... I talk to people from time to time... The polls about my State are not at all accurate. Come November, you will see so for yourself...
     
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    Given all your uncredible insults, you are under the greatest delusion cheerleading for a candidate that doesn't know where he is half the time and also thinks he's running for the Senate.......oh wait, you don't care, you really have your eyes on Commie Kamala!
     
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    Democrats and the media made themselves look like idiots by jumping the gun on collusion before they had evidence. But even that has a parallel right now. Obamagate sound familiar?

    You underestimate the necessity of rally attendance. No one is excited about Biden. Only Trump supporters are excited about Trump, but that doesn't matter, because they were already going to vote for him. The difference is, Biden doesn't need you to be excited about him. He just needs you to like him more, or dislike him less, than you do Trump. That's incredibly easy to do no matter which of those metrics you choose. If you want normal and boring, Biden is your guy. If you want chaos and non-stop self-promotion, vindictiveness, immaturity, and off-the-rails behavior, I guess you go with Trump. And there are quite a bit of folks out there who are sick of the latter because they just lived through 4 long years of it.

    I think you're getting your candidates confused. It's Trump who refuses to accept that anything less than a win for him could be legitimate.

    And if not for the funny business in Florida, Gore would have been the president.

    You could very well end up right about Trump. 2016 taught me and others not to count the asshat out until the chips have fallen. But it's not looking good for him, even by the standards in 2016 that actually did show him doing well.
     
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    Wasn't there some email business dredged up at the last minute by Comey?
     
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    The Donald Trump who improved in the polls against Clinton is not the Donald Trump we have running in 2020. The former Donald Trump was an unknown quantity, and more importantly, was not Hillary Clinton. Neither of those important circumstances exist today. I'm certain that Trump has won some folks over to his side since then, but what's going to be important are the amount of people he has repulsed since then and the amount of people who only voted for him because they disliked Clinton more. Voters who didn't vote for either candidate, or at all, in 2016 will also be important. Donald Trump is the type of man who motivates folks to get out and vote, both for and against him.

    In the spring I thought Donald Trump had the election in the bag, especially after the Democrats were playing funny business with the stimulus package. But I underestimated Donald Trump's ability to shoot himself in the foot. He whiffed on the easiest(in political terms) pitch of his presidency. All he had to do was care about COVID-19. But that may very well prove to be his undoing. I doubt there are many voters who will blame him for the economic losses due to COVID-19, but they will blame him for his rhetoric, apathy, relative inaction, and his inability to care about anything but himself. Even the Trump voters I interact with at work can't stand him. One says "I'd be perfectly happy if I never had to hear the guy speak again". They're going to vote for him again because they dislike the Democrats more.

    Trump will need to hope that a majority of the voters in the states he needs to win feel the same way.
     
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    Yes I believe it's more of post election attempt to delegitimize Trump presidency. They know they can't beat him so they're going to tie it up as well.

    Also they're trying to pry away under cards from Trump in hopes that would harm his reelection chances. It's old tactic they been using for decades now.
     
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