Marcus Smart's painful postgame incident a lasting reminder that racism is taught

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  1. dairyair

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    You know how it goes: Player X can’t possibly experience racism because he earned some certain amount of money at some point in time.


    There are countless examples of this not being the case, but originality and intellectually competent arguments aren’t exactly standard fare when it comes to race and racism.
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    Afraid something bad was about to happen, Smart “yelled to her, politely, that she needed to hurry and get out of the street so the two of them wouldn’t get hurt.”

    The woman was wearing a Celtics No. 4 jersey, for Isaiah Thomas. She was surrounded by other fans. They had all just watched the team win. She was with a small child.

    “I figured she’d be cool,” Smart wrote. “Nope. She swung her head around it was ... ‘F--- you, you f-----g n-word!!!’
    https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-sma...reminder-that-racism-is-taught-181333753.html

    This is how systemic racism still exists. Even though laws are not systemic anymore, humans are.
     
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    Because some white trash yells racial epithets does NOT equal systemic racism. That is merely a narrative being thrust onto us. People sometimes say nasty things to just be nasty. It could been an old guy yelling at them and that same white trash could have responded "Shut the F--- up you old geriatric piece of s---" and yet, I would not call the age discrimination.. Just some imbecile being an imbecile.
     
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    Can you post one law in our system that puts people of color at a disadvantage?
    Can you list one thing a person of color cannot achieve due to racism?
     
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    Boston, like most liberal populated cities is pledged with racism. I am not surprised by this at all.
     
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    Let's see she's a racist but wears the jersey of a black player. He yelled at her because she was crossing against the light but then the story says she was surrounded by other fans and the area becomes a mass of bodies after the game.

    Sounds like a red badge of courage story.
     
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    @Doofenshmirtz @Pred @Bearack

    Racisim, like most forms of discrimination, is insidious. The POINT is that some people are treated differently and/or poorly SOLELY based on their perceived "handicap". Sadly, it is also pervasive.
     
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    If it is pervasive, you should have no trouble answering my questions. here they are again:

    Can you post one law in our system that puts people of color at a disadvantage?
    Can you list one thing a person of color cannot achieve due to racism?
     
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    Because it doesn't exist. They take the actions of a few and use it to paint a large group with a broad stroke, which is exactly what racists do.
     
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    Reread the OP. In particular, the last sentence.
     
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    A point largely lost on most of those posting in this thread.

    I guess calling a black man the N word for trying to be helpful is just part of the norm in some people's lives.
    But that is the reason we can't end systemic racism or discrimination by the use of laws alone.

    Most of those responding here, prove that.
     
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    I did and challenged the claim of it being "systemic" with 2 simple questions.
     
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    I have nothing but contempt for this lady and her actions. Taking her actions and applying it to a large group is not only false, it is also the same thing that racists do. They paint groups with a broad stroke. If racism is "systemic" and "pervasive" you should have no trouble with my 2 simple questions.
     
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    If you read it you didn't need to ask the question that had been answered.
     
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    This might come as a big shock to liberals, but racism will always exist. There will always be people that don't like others because of the color of their skin, or their religion, or their sex... that is NOT going to stop. And guess what, people are FREE to be racist. Yes, you read that right, part of freedom in this country is the ability to be a racist.

    What doesn't exist is systematic racism. And this is where the claim that professional athletes aren't subjected to systematic racism based on the fact that they are making millions of dollars playing sports.

    If the goal of the left is to eliminate racism among other people, they are once again living in some utopian fantasy land not based in reality.
     
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    Burying it as a 1 off incident is also the equivalent of burying one's head in the sand.

    The story basically covers your questions.
    Humans are taught this racism that still exists in society, but NOT in LAWS.

    Laws don't change human thoughts instantly. The OP story covers your questions. It is taught. That little boy now could think blacks can be called N word, just because of skin.
     
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    The fact that you think that there is any plausible way to end racism, or sexism, or any other 'ism is proving that you live in a fantasy land of dreams.
     
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    And if you can't answer, you would have to admit that the claim is false. Just because a term is used repetitively, it doesn't mean that it is true.
     
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    Slavery will always exist.
    Women will never get to vote.
    Interracial marriages will never happen.
    Gays can never marry.

    Yes, The same tone has always been handed down throughout history. But as we've seen, stereotypes can be broken and changed.

    I know that may be a shock to non liberals.
     
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    Really, how so?
     
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    Each one of those issues is related to LAWS of government, not personal feelings of individuals and their rights.

    Wow, how can you not see the difference?

    You live in fantasy land.
     
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    If my head was in the sand, I would take the actions of the few and apply it to the "system". You are not qualified to speak for what that little boy thinks.
    You are right in saying that it exists in society. Claiming that it is systemic and pervasive is what is being challenged.
     
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    Again, the story of the OP answer both of your questions.

    1. The black person can never achieve human status to many people. In spite of what laws say.
     
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    https://sports.yahoo.com/marcus-sma...reminder-that-racism-is-taught-181333753.html

    ...You know how it goes: Player X can’t possibly experience racism because he earned some certain amount of money at some point in time. ...
    Boston Celtics guard Marcus Smart offered another example in a Players Tribune story that posted on Tuesday, and he also offered another reminder of the truth: racism is taught. ...
     
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    "many people" is a broad term and is a long way from "systemic". I can easily replace that term with "few people". In this case, no one has excused her actions. She deserves a kick in the taco!
     
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    You do realize that the N word is used in the black community, not only as a term of endearment, but also as a derogatory slang word among themselves.

    If you want to extinguish the N word as a racial epithet, it should be extinguished as a hole and no selectively.

    However, using the N Word as a racial epithet is still not indicative of systemic racism.
     

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