Should we count late ballots in PA?

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  1. mitchscove

    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Federal Law gives control of the process for determining electors to the state legislatures. Wolf asked for the PA legislature to give his partisans 3 days to cheat. The PA legislature declined. The Constitution doesn't give the Governor the power to violate Federal Law or the state courts to grant an emergency "Trump is winning in a landslide" exception. Your party is corrupt. Own it. Embrace it.
     
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  2. Curious Always

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    I'm not sure how the Libertarians can be blamed, here, but whatever.

    Since when is granting emergency exceptions due to unforeseen circumstances, not a valid reason for a court?

    We had a 100-year flood here, two days ago. If it had been the day before the election, the court would have ABSOLUTELY needed to step in and come up with something. That's what courts do. (Or would you deny all South Florida residents the right to vote because of weather?)
     
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    It all depends on state law. Some states have laws that the ballots must be received prior to election day in order to be counted. some say on election day and others that they can be received after election day as long as they're post marked on or prior to election day. There's a couple of states that will count ballots received up to 5 days after the election. Most of these state laws have been on their books for decades. Here in Georgia, as long as the ballot is received by 7PM on election day, that's when the polls close, they'll be counted. But not the one's received after the 7PM deadline. I don't know what Pennsylvania's law is regarding counting late ballots, but whatever it is, it should be observed.

    I'm of a firm opinion that election laws and requirements shouldn't be changed within a year of an election.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The legislator in Penn is to make election law. Not the court. Ruling is invalid.
     
  5. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    If they planned to cheat why would they need the extra days?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    ROFL!!
     
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    most of them were late due to the postal service thanks to Trump's attempts to sabotage the postal service. In order to be counted a late ballot has to be postmarked prior to election day
     
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    Yet the whole point of the fraudulent polls was voter suppression.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Nah, we arnt like you guys. Thanx for the advise, but perhaps thats some you should not have taken.
    Florida tossing out ballets ring a bell, or that conservative mail person who plead guilty to tampering with democrats mail.
    Then to top it all off voting for Trump..yea right. You have already fully embraced corruption, So see everything else as corrupt when you dont win.
     
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  10. mitchscove

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    It took a few ballot dumps in MI, all in the dark of night when observers weren't observing. The first was 200,000 votes, all president only ballot selection, all for biden. It took more than one night. They had to find out Trump's winning margin before they knew how many ballots they needed to overcome it by at least 1%.
     
  11. truth and justice

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    Why not just add fake votes to Biden on the day?
     
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    Nope. Either the PA Legislature or the US Supreme Court would have had to step in. Wolf broke Federal Law, clearly stated in Article II Section 1 Clause 2:

    Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress

    It's likely that your 100 year flood was the result of 100 years of forest mismanagement in CA. In those 100 years, small fires that occur naturally were not allowed to burn the brush. Fires, regardless of cause, would reach the woods and fizzle out. No longer. When they get to the woods, light up the kindling and burn out of control. Trees like Sequoias need fire for their seeds to germinate. Some out there are thousands of years old and probably survived dozens of little brush fires.

    Because of mismanagement, CA is smoking up the whole planet, causing illness and climate change around the globe. Is AOC too busy mixing Moscow Mules to put an end to this madness?
     
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  13. mitchscove

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    They did in some places ,,, they locked out observers and blocked their view. There are pictures and affidavits to substantiate the crimes. But 200,000 ballots or 400,000 manufactured ballots are difficult to hide during the day.
     
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    Uh? A hurricane event in South Florida is California's fault?

    Uh - that nonsense belongs in the conspiracy theory forum.

    And, clearly, you have no idea what the purpose of the court is.
     
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    At no time were there no observers observing the count. No more difficult that hiding any other way with the other plus of being done on the day
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Wasn't there a WB report that loads of ballots were being backdated?
     
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    It’s a hypothetical, you must have the definitions confused.

    I understand if you cannot answer as it would damage your narrative.

    Carry on
     
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    Climate Change dontcha know. Alarmists have been telling us for years that humans can dial up global warming by setting our thermostats to 72 in the winter and 68 in the summer. Heck, our climate alarmist - in chief was awarded the Nobel Prize when he boasted that he could slow the rise in the oceans. Compared to controlling the global temperature and the sea level, dialing up a hurricane is childs play.
     
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    I guess you don't want to acknowledge that a court granting an extension due to previously unforeseen circumstances is a legitimate function of court.

    Talk about trying to sidetrack things.
     
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    courts have the authority to interpret all laws.

    FACT: PA election law does allow late ballots, under certain circumstances
     
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    If the votes were mailed our in time they should be counted. The voter did their job. Idk if that falls under law though.
     
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    The extra 3 days is presumably based on the Mail Box Rule in contract law and court rules. I am not sure how the PA court got there on this matter though. While I personally wouldn't care as long as they were postmarked or received by election day, the line is going to have to be drawn somewhere. If you make it 3 days later people will complain about the ones that came in 4 days later, etc.

    If I were deciding this case, I would look at the state law. Unless the ballot clearly fell within an exception to the statutory deadline, I wouldn't allow it. I wouldn't care if it was because of the post office, COVID, a broken machine or anything else. While that may seem unfair to some people, I think it is unfair to all those who did comply with the law, especially those who stood in line on election day, to change the procedure set in in law.
     
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    Big deal...:roflol:

    It was complete hogwash,and the guy RECANTED his story.:bored:
     
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    Of course there are affidavits by postal workers that were ordered to back date.
     

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