THANKS NYT for Accidentally Providing the Data that Will Bring Down Biden and CRACK THE BIGGEST VOTE

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  1. ChiCowboy

    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure you believe that, but others, including me, see it as preventing meddling in the election. All the evidence points in that direction.

    FB and Twitter were not under any circumstances going to suffer the same fate they did in 2016. The laptop story is fake. You must know that by now. Social media protected the election; they didn't meddle.
     
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    There could very well have been rioting if that Trump guy won the election but that is not related to being an election denier.
    Anyone can question the legitimacy of just about anything yet if "you" do so you are morally obligated to do so rationally and honestly and truthfully. Questioning the legitimacy of an election based on a whim or for pure revenge or just to sow the seeds of distrust against your political opponent as Trump has been doing is indeed the moral equivalent of treason albeit not legally treason. Falsely questioning anything and or making untrue accusations or bearing false witness against thy neighbor is wrong and immoral. Saying that MR. Biden is not a legitimate president is not only wrong but is immoral though not lreagally treason.
     
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  3. Andrew Jackson

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    :roflol:

    Here is the rundown on this "expert":

    promoter of conspiracy theories and unfounded medical claims.

    During the COVID-19 pandemic, Ayyadurai became known for a social media disinformation campaign about the coronavirus; spreading conspiracy theories about the cause of coronavirus; promoting unfounded COVID-19 treatments; and campaigning to fire Anthony Fauci for allegedly being a so-called "deep state" actor.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai

    The guy is a thoroughly discredited whack job.:roflol::bored:

    Do you really want to hang your hat on that?

    Be my guest.:salute:
     
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  4. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    If some people have their heads up the anal opening only at NEWSMax what can we expect. I saw a report where a Trumpist says that Fox is "too liberal". tHat is like saying that the pope is too Catholic.
     
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  5. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    If there was any real cheating in this election cycle that did make a difference, it was censorship by mainstream and social media giants.
     
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    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Not really.

    Unfounded Conspiracies and Deepfakes have no business on Facebook and Twitter.
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    Problem is, mainstream media was publishing outright false information for too long. On their quest to destroy Trump, they succeeded, but at the cost of destroying their own reputations as well. How can you expect people to continue visiting their sites or watching their news, if it’s well known that whatever comes out of them can be outright false, or something that was taken out of context? If I want to read political commentary, I might as well just read it here.
    I generally read news now by going to Google News, then Reuters, then Fox News, then Washington Examiner or New York Post. I also eliminated all personal identifiers on Facebook, like job info, college, school, even name, and now I just avoid visiting Facebook more than once per week.

    What the left did with our mass media is despicable.
     
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    Oh this predates trump, it was under Obama that the RW decided they could only trust patriot.vlogspot and the like.
    You’ll have to give me some the examples of blatant lies from respected outlets like the times or the Washington post.
     
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    For refusing to run stories about blind IT guys and trumps lawyer??
     
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    Problem is, Russian collusion was as much of an unfounded conspiracy as hunters laptop. Yet, I didn’t see you complaining about mass media and social media spreading false and unfounded conspiracy claims all over the globe.
    I’m no fan of hypocrisy. That’s why I switched sides.
     
  11. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    No need to go too far:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...g-today’s-jobs-numbers-as-a-great-day.573541/

    The refutation was posted literally on the first page. I distinctly remember seeing these headlines for several days after learning that it was wrong. Mass media did it right at the height of the Floyd violence.

    This event made me realize that everything I know about Trump was based only on what the CEOs of these “news” organizations allowed me to know. That’s why I started visiting conservative news sources heavily - how else can you get another point of view? So, it really is true - these days, in order to form an independent opinion about something, you must read it in at least 2 versions from “news” organizations that favor opposing political forces.
     
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  12. Scamander

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    Sure, Trump will get 4 more years.

    At his parole-board hearing...
     
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    I think thats a bad example, Trumps random ramblings often make it had to know what he’s actually talking about. What question was he asked? That would say a lot about how honest the reporting was.
    Regardless, thats what he said! They didn’t make up the quote.
     
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    Biden won by Domminion with ties to multiple Democrats including Nancy Pelosi. Cheating makes him a illegitimate aka fake president.

    Even if he wins we will make the next 4 year's miserable for him. Trump supporters will never forget.
     
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    Not really. There were a dozen campaign members actively engaging Russian agents or what they thought were Russian agents. Trump has yet to say a mean word about 3 world leaders that I know of, MBS, Putin, and Netanyahu. Trump has a lot of Russian ties, and Russian agents were caught actively hacking servers and laptops of the political parties.

    That Mueller did not find enough evidence to make a criminal case was likely due to the chaotic campaign team that Trump ran. As Kushner said, they couldn't collude with themselves.
     
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    Trump was winning in the polls and America until covid 19 came along. The Democrats used the virus to hurt Trump.

    Back in 2016 Trump called for unity after winning yet for 4 entire years the Democrats refused to accept Trump as president.

    Now they want us to accept Biden? I don't think so.

    Did you accept Trump as president or did you attack him for the last 4 year's?
     
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    Actually, it’s a perfect example. Everyone knows Trump talks funny sometimes. Instead of clarifying the meaning of Trump’s statement they immediately went Breaking News on this, right at the time when most of the looting and rioting was happening, looking as if they were deliberately pouring fuel on raging fire.

    Guys, you can’t stoke political violence, demonize entire race and profession, and blast outright lies on the global level just to trash a president from a party you don’t support! The Democratic Party went beyond despicable!
     
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    Russia did not influence or change a single vote in 2016 unless you know people who voted because Russia told them to.

    Mabey Russia hacked the voting computers but that would prove Trump right that Domminium can be used to steal an election.
     
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    Social media, FB and Twitter worked to get Biden elected. Sounds like interference to me.
     
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    They made a mistake and corrected it. It was still a horrible statement since Trump was talking about squashing protests and riots using the National Guard and declaring victory. Like why would George be calling that a great day?

    Beyond that, you are trying to tell us that you just started reading conservative (really nutjob) news sources this past June? Please.
     
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    And no one claims that they did. Seriously, why do you guys get this wrong time and time again?
     
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    No, they worked to stop fake news, something Trump was hoping to use to get himself elected.
     
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    So you are going to run around making a bunch of claims that you don't really believe. OK, not my problem. Personally I'm too honest to do that, but different strokes for different folks.
     
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    I was sort of blanket covering that stuff with 'conspiracy theories'. I don't have the time or the stamina to list all the current ones, let alone the potentials. Dealing with people this removed from reality requires a fair bit of editing. ;)
     
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    It's not fake news. Trump has 234 pages of affidavits for Wayne County, Michigan alone.

    I think you are afraid of what the truth may reveal.
     
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