Trump Admin. strikes deal to make COVID-19 vaccine free at major pharmacies

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  1. DaveBN

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    Yeah, government does a bunch of great stuff with our money. Wish they’d do more though. :(
     
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    Oh okay, so she said that she wouldn’t trust a politician about critical medical issues. That sounds pretty reasonable to me.

    “"I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump and it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he's talking about," she continued in the clip from an exclusive interview airing Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union" at 9 a.m. ET. "I will not take his word for it."”
     
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    It will take more than just a president to move America into socialism. And I doubt that is what Trump wants.
     
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    Do you see a socialist hiding behind every tree?

    During the McCarthy era, hundreds of Americans were accused of being " communists" or "communist sympathizers"
     
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    Like upgrading our aging infrastructure.
     
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    Like upgrading our aging infrastructure. Felt the need to say it twice.
     
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    Nope, it’s already begun.

    Just look at the gays. Gave us the right to marry in one state back in ‘04 and now we can do it everywhere.
     
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    Absolutely! Rebuilding our infrastructure would be an excellent jobs program. 100% on board.
     
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    you mean like lying to the people, playing it down, shutting down the economy, blaming the shutdown on Governors, trying to get people to pack the churches, playing it down again, turning people away from masks, and now trying to take credit for the vaccine... what Trump will need to do now is make sure we organize getting the vaccine to the people and getting them to take it... how do you think he will do? can he get that done in the next two months?
     
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    To be honest I never expected you to admit to being a socialist, even a little bit.
     
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    God help us if we DON'T.
     
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    Allowing gays to marry is socialism? Dude, get a life!
     
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    Social Security and Medicare are socialist entitlements. You okay with that?
     
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    Slippery slope argument. I was being facetious.
     
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    Whatever.
     
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    Yes.
    My point is that a lot of Republicans and trump supporters talk about socialism as if it is an evil far left concept that will destroy America. As if it must be avoided absolutely and all costs. They threw the word around as an insult.
    But they have no problem in embracing policies that are socialist when it suits them.
     
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    Aaaaaaaand completely flicked up!

    1) vaccines require a “cold chain” to ensure they do not kill more than they “cure”
    2) THIS vaccine require very specific minus temperatures
    3) Who will actually be administering the vaccine? The pharmacist? The nurse? The new hire?
    4) What infrastructures are available if the recipient has an adverse reaction?
    5) who will be receiving the vaccines first? Those most at risk like frontline workers or anyone with the right money?
     
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    I'd call that straw man thinking, but that would give it more credit than it deserves.

    Yes, Democrats are just fuming that people will get free access to a vital medicine. They are just fuming. It is just all they talk about. They are just terrified that it might cost them the election and soften up Americans for universal healthcare. You just have no idea how angry that makes them.

    What a bizarre mental universe to inhabit.
     
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    Same as it every was - 'get your socialist hands off my Medicare'.

    People on the right LOVE free stuff, they just hate it when people they don't consider 'deserving' also get it.

    Make sure you never find yourself between a farmer & a big pot of government money - they won't find enough of you to fit in a suitcase. Same with Republicans on Social Security...or most 'Red' states for that matter. If you want a good guide to which bits of America get more government money than they pay in taxes just look at an electoral map by county and find the red bits.

    Just remember, the Republican version of 'socialism' isn't getting free stuff, it is when people you don't like get it or people you don't like give it out.
     
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    ok, just heard Trump's speech, looks like the Vaccine will not reach the people until about April, so a ways to go yet
     
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    And by then you will have a new admin who will and already is looking at the logistics required

    But let Trump have his triumph
     
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    you sure?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...verybody-in-replacing-obamacare-idUSKBN15005C

    "“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”"
     
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    looks like they were not part of Operation warp speed either, oops

    "Germany funded the development of Pfizer’s COVID vaccine—not U.S.’s Operation Warp Speed"

    https://fortune.com/2020/11/09/pfizer-vaccine-funding-warp-speed-germany/

    "The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. Rather, its partner, BioNTech SE, has received money -- from the German government."
     
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    I believe they recieved a committment to purchase if the vaccine worked, but no actual money.
     
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