Realistically speaking, is there anything that would convince Trump base there wasn't massive fraud?

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  1. HockeyDad

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    Liberals can call me anything they like. Their opinion of me is an irrelevancy. This is why I live in a conservative community.
     
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    no one was calling you anything, you called yourself that
     
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    Sure, a hand recount of all votes that can be linked to a legally registered voter and a time.

    That's simple. As soon as unverified ballots are removed from their envelops, the effort to keep GOP poll watchers from watching polls would have worked unless votes that have no bipartisan verification are disqualified. Votes that were backdated would have to be disqualified.

    We know that the software used in some Democrat battleground states and municipalities was the same software used by Hugo Chavez to guarantee a win while giving him an argument that he was elected fair and square. That's why some not so smart Democrats boasted in advance how the night was going to play out ,,, that Trump was going to win in a landslide on election night (before the software's vote switching features kicked in and Trump votes would go to Biden) then the election would be stolen automatically. How did they know?
     
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    Ok. Fair enough. My mistake.

    But if you label yourself a "deplorable" then you are telling us which of the two halves she mentions you consider yourself in.

    Wouldn't it have been better for you if you had left my mistake uncorrected?
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    Funny you should bring up Hillary. She set the standard for 2020 by telling Biden not to concede under any circumstances.

    We won't mention Gore contesting the 2000 election for 38 days.
     
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    Deja vous all over again. Democrats didn't accept the results of the 2016 election for going on 4 years. We had special prosecutors bogus impeachment charges, spying, warrants based on Russian disinformation ,,,, we had it all. Get over it. You fraudsters either hid your cheating well enough or you didn't. I'm betting the Trump landslide was so overwhelming that you slipped up along the way ,,, like using the Hugo Chavez victory SW to flip a MI place to Biden that was the most unlikely to flip Democrat in the history of flipping.
     
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    And if the hand count INCREASED Biden’s lead? I mean it wasn’t Biden calling on his followers to vote twice
     
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    mitchscove Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't think there would be a single Republican who would refuse to concede after the votes were fully validated. I would even overlook Joe's statement that he assembled the most comprehensive voter fraud operation in history if it stood up to a hand recount.
     
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    I take any label the left can slap on me as a badge of honor. The heroes of the past 4 years were the conservatives who had that label slapped on them, who were driven from their social media platforms (sometimes with over a million followers), who suffered relentless twitter mobs and still refused to take a knee. That takes real moral courage. That is speaking to truth to power. The left has the power of the mob and the power of the elite. We just need more heroes who will not back down and cave to their injustice.
     
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    What will it take to convince me the election is legit?

    I presume all our elections are effected by fraud. We're simply too big and too corrupt for them not to be. But as a general rule, I don't waste a lot of energy trying convince folks of things I can't prove. If the suits and investigations still lead to state electors certifying a Biden win, then that, as they say, is that.

    But more to point, whats going to convince the conservative half of America that even a legitimately elected administration can legitimately sell us out to authoritative global collectivism?

    Absolutely nothing.
     
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    Biden said that? When? Where?
     
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    Oh! You mean the Lincoln Project? .??
     
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    Yes the Lincoln Project doxxed and incited a twitter mob against Trump lawyers. They are on your side. Real ethical behavior on their part. They were punching down as expected.
     
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    Well... you defined it... you attributed it to yourself... you accepted it... and, after having the opportunity, you refused to disown it. If I had done that to you I would have been banned on the spot. But you did it to yourself. So, what can I say... Who am I to contradict you!
     
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    Yes and got banned from Twitter until they took the post down
     
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    AFTER the lawyers pulled out of the case. Bunch of thugs. Don't act like Twitter's hands are clean. They left it up long enough to accomplish the objective. The left is all about punching down. By any means necessary... amirite?

    I hope they are sued into oblivion. That was clear incitement to violence for political purposes... TERRORISM.
     
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    Lets see some proof.
     
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    I couldn't post the pages and pages of Not My President.... Hopefully we can return the favor.

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    I will start it. Biden is Not (and will never be) My President
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    There is nothing that will change their mind. They have been conditioned by Trump to believe their was voter fraud. He knows his base well. He knew if he repeated his bogus claim enough they would eat it up and parrot it like the good followers they are.
     
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    JOE BIDEN: Well, first of all, you know, uh, what really rankles, uh, my opponent is I say that, uh, the thing that bothers him most is he’s not a patch on Barack’s jeans. I mean, you know Barack was one hell of a president, and I tell you what, man, what an honor it was — I think you guys believe it, too — to serve with him. I mean, incredible honor. And, uh, I’m not being solicitous. I really mean that. Um, he had more integrity in his little finger than most people have in their whole body and he had a backbone like a ramrod. Has one.

    But one of the things that I think is most important is those who haven’t voted yet, first of all, go to “I Will Vote dot com” to make a plan exactly how you’re gonna vote, where you’re gonna vote, when you’re gonna vote, because it can get complicated. Because the Republicans’ve [sic] doing everything they pan [sic] to make it harder for people to vote — particularly people of color to vote. So go to “I Will Vote dot com.”

    Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together — and you’d [sic] guys, did it for our, the president Obama’s administration, before this — we have put together, I think, the most extensive and and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.

     
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    Cherry picking
    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-fact-check-biden-voter-protection-not-idUSKBN27E2VH

    meanwhile

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    There is a difference to say “he/she is not my president” and to say – “there was a election fraud, my candidate won”. I see you don’t understand, so let me explain you:
    In democracy you don’t have to love your president, you have a right to “she/he is not my president”, but you have to accept the results of the democratic process. If you suspect the fraud you need to show an evidence. The cry baby complain “I won, I won” is not an evidence.

    In dictatorship, communist or fascist YOU MUST LOVE YOU LEADER. You must to believe that the Dear Leader always won the election.
    So what is a difference between the North Korea and Trump supporters? In North Korea people who don’t Love Dear Leader, people who think that Dear leader lost the election are put into concentration camps, in America President Trump convince 74 million Americans to believe that there was an election fraud without threatening people with concentration camp.

    GENIUS!!!!
     
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    The claim in pennsylvania that campaign and party poll watchers were physically prevented from watching the camera has already been disproven.

    The poll watchers in question was a "self proclaimed" poll watchers. He was never removed from from The counting room. He was simply kept at a distance which was applied equally to all poll watchers.

    Trump's lawyers admitted in court when asked by the judge overseeing the court that the claims of unequal enforcement of rules based on party and campaign affiliation were untrue as well as those claims that Trump party and GOP poll watchers were barred from the room.
     
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    So nothing.
     
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    The irony is that although their side won by cheating, winning seems to be freaking out some of them. It's not as if it matters anyway. When in doubt, earn money, raise a family, mostly obey the law most of the time; that's who and what Trump supporters are. I don't know why some leftits are worried about this. What do they expect to happen? Suddenly parts of cities will experience violent riots and competitive level looting, burning, mugging and murdering? That's become the definition of the radical and extreme far Left . . . not people existing to the Right of Center. Enjoy.
     
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