Trump skips virtual G20 meeting on 'pandemic preparedness' to play golf

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  1. 9royhobbs

    9royhobbs Well-Known Member

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    You should probably stop now for your own benefit.
     
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    It is not just that

    The ONLY chance we have of clipping CHINA”s wings is by choking it out of global trade deals - that is what the Trans Pacific Partnership was DESIGNED to do.
     
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    What does it matter to you? Whatever a EU country says you will say it crushes your freedom.
     
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    You should try to contribute something. Pfizer shouid meet OUR demand first before others because our guaranteed funding made it possible for the research to be done. How much did EU contribute again?
     
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    We produce more tests than anyone. What do you mean far behind? Are you ignorantly comparing us to countries the size of one of our states? I’m getting tested on Monday actually. Made an appt. will walk in and get my results in 24 hours. Free, easy.
     
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    Instead of criticizing him, you should be praising him for fast-tracking a vaccine that's soon to be made available for all. If I had done something as great as that, I'd be out playing some golf as well.

    What you on the left fear more than anything else is not his failure, but his success. Because it's his success that makes you on the left look like the miserable losers that you are.
     
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    Like everything else, he takes credit for the success of pharmaceuticals.

    "I know more about vaccin than the scientists, believe me..."

    There's no Trump success.

    Maybe you didn't know this, but 80 million Americans just kicked him out.

    There could have been more, but 250,000 of them died because of a pandemic that was supposed to disappear with the warm weather.
     
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    Incorrect.

    You should get new sources
     
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    Having Pense end the Trump last 2 months is very appropriate. HeadLines New York Daily News - Trump Out - Eunuch In
     
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    Wow how true, how sad
     
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    Yep!
     
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    And boNtech owns all the rights and patents for the vaccine.
    The agreement with Pfizer is cost and profit sharing, 50:50
     
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    Can't argue that since it is true. Trumpistas will claim that it was developed by Trump while he watched Fox News.
     
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    How true!
     
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    He cannot get indicted while in office at least not for committing a federal crime.
     
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    Not a dime, and neither from the US, they are not part of warp speed.
    BioNtech received 340 million from the German Government, a non refundable grant, to built up its production facilities. Same for curevac, the company the US tried to buy, actually in this case the German Government stepped in.
    A agreement between Mr Hopp, founder of SAP, was reached, so that him and the German Government have a blocking majority.
    Germany went in with 360 millions.
    2 month later curevac went public, NASDAQ, the share went balistic. The German government made in 24 hours 1 billion.
    Curevacs mRNA vaccine prototype can be stored from 41F to - minus 70. It is trading rather well, as does bioNtech.

    By the way, bioNtech called its program in January light speed.
    The light speed exist.
    Warp speed is a fantasy, Perry Rodan.
     
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    The world is moving on, without the US.
     
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    Child neglect, elder neglect, animal neglect.

    I don't think the vaccine developed in Germany will be coming here, first.
     
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    Pfizer only gets 50% of what is produced, because it did not develop that vaccine, its a German Company, called bioNtech and that company owns that vaccine.
    Not :
    USA
    USA
    USA
    MAGA

    Just Germany
     
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    We'll never know, will we?

    It's in everyone's best interest, world wide, to get through this as quickly as possible.

    Convince me otherwise.
     
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    Quotes without context are like dictionaries without definitions. Neither are worth the paper they're printed on.
     
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    It will come to the USA at the same time it comes to Europe, but the production will be split, based on the pre-sales contracts, proportional.
    I think the US has a contract for some 100 millions doses or so, which makes 50 million complete vaccinations, I think they have a option to buy more.
    The EU has a contract of over 200 millions, with a 100 millions option. Brazil and other country bought, too.
    Production capacity in Germany/Marburg ( lovely town, in my home state, as is Mainz, the pharmacy of the world ) will be 750 million doses in 2021. Maybe they can get it up to a billion. Total capacity as of now bioNtech and Pfizer will be in 2020 50 million doses, good enough for 25 million people.
    Fore 2021 they estimate 1.3 billion.
    Moderna a US company, mRNA, is a little short on money and size, warp speed participant, so no production estimates from them, jet..
    As far as I know
     
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    Which one would tha be ?
     
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    There are two Pffizer manufacturing plants in the U.S. which are producing the vaccine for us.

    There is a distribution difference as to what to do with the U.S. supply of the vaccine. Keep it for Americans first, then shared excess production globally is/was the Trump plan and vaccinate the elderly and vulnerable first.

    One of Biden's advisors does not think that Americans should get first "dibs" on the slice that we will produce domestically. He thinks we should vaccinate some Americans and share globally before all Americans who want a vaccination get a vaccine.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-coronavirus-adviser-emanuel-vaccine-distribution
     
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    1.95B contract guaranteed. Please educate yourself.
     

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