Major Study Finds Masks Don’t Reduce COVID-19 Infection Rates <<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. Well Bonded

    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes they are, but you will quickly discover unreasonable people demanding compliance are now going to attack you for posting facts they disagree with.

    It's their way or no way, step out of line and it's off to retraining for you.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's easy to answer, it doesn't support the posters narrative and therefore will be ignored.
     
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    Well Bonded Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Taken out of context, which is how the world of internet debating works.

    If the person you are debating with will not agree 2 + 2 = 4, you are probably on the internet.
     
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  4. LangleyMan

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    Where is your cite?

    Ad for mine ... are you prepared to acknowledge that P100 respirators are capable of stopping particles the size of the SARS-CoV-2 virus? We can go on and look at the new case numbers for people wearing a particular mask or respirator.
     
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    The null hypothesis is always in effect until it can be rejected by strong scientific evidence, of which you have none

    Great, you should have no problem pulling up that study that strongly demonstrates that masks have an affect on incidence of disease.
    I'll wait

    Awesome.
    Find strong scientific evidence for reduction in incidence of disease and present it.

    Google John Travolta, Boy in the Plastic Bubble.
    Go get you one
     
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    Some counterclaims, perhaps, because you're not talking about my claims.

    When are you going to stop saying P100 respirators are ineffective against SARS-CoV-2?

    "P100 filters are effective against all particulate aerosols and they are 99.97% efficient against 0.3μm particles (Clever et al. 2019). It implies that the penetration level of 0.3 μm diameter particles through P100 filters will not be more than 0.03%. Consequently, APR and PAPR including P100 filters would likely offer much better protection against COVID-19 compared to N95 respirator. Full-facepiece APR and PAPR can offer 5- and 100-times higher protection level than N95 respirator (Clever et al. 2019, Rengasamy et al. 2015, Vo et al. 2015)."

    http://www.idpublications.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Full-Paper-PROTECTION-EFFICIENCY-OF-N95-RESPIRATOR-AGAINST-COVID-19-AN-EPIGRAMMATIC-REVIEW.pdf
    What on earth are you talking about?
     
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    Did you learn this in an Fox News science class? :roll: :roll:
    We'll see. First, a comment from you on the phenomenon of healthcare workers wearing effective PPE and not getting COVID-19. Does that suggest anything to you?
    We'll see after you reply about healthcare workers wearing PPE.
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  8. truth and justice

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    You're in a thread which has a link in the OP that states that a mask gives some protection to the wearer!

    And explain this away if you can:

     
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    ~ No real evidence. Too much goes through the mask. A plastic face shield would likely do a better job.
    This is not about cost/inconvenience. It's about truth & justice. Dumbing down society is never a good thing.
     
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    An N95 or better respirator with goggles could dramatically cut transmission fairly quickly.
     
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    LOL. You wrote "Unless a contagious person is coughing/sneezing a mask likely does little to reduce the strength of the virus spreading" clearly you can't comprehend your own words
     
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    And you when you spread it to almost everyone you come into contact with (which you will, because this disease is ferociously contagious), some who will die? No problemo?
     
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    Try looking at your own posts. Ample evidence.
     
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    This proves what ?
     
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    What percentage of the population is walking around with an N95 and goggles? Most of the "masks" that people are so smugly proud of are simple pieces of cloth or the paper ones that have "non-medical use only" on the box of 20.
     
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    are you just trying to be cute or are you actually trying to refute the scientifically accepted principle that the null hypothesis must be rejected with strong scientific evidence?
     
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    those masks only work on influenza not SARS-COV-2
     
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    I wear an fitted N95 respirator that protects me and others when I'm inside and can't socially distance.
     
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    N95 and better respirators, worn properly, are protective against SARS-CoV-2. I provided you with proof they are.
     
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    I'm not interested in playing monkey to your organ grinding.
     
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    You left out the "reduces incidence of disease" part
     
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    Which bit? The bit where the link in the OP states that masks provide some protection to the wearer or the video that shows masks protect others from a masked infected person?
     
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    Why must you offer cartoon drawings and pretend it is rational discussion of facts?
     
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