Kobach: Texas Case Challenges Election Directly at Supreme Court

The SC in PA has the final say on this matter, and they said it was okay.

The SCOTUS has no authority to intervene in a state matter. How the states decide electors is completely up to the states. You know this.

 

LOL. So, every time there's no evidence whatsoever of fraud, we should invalidate ballots?

At that point, we're invalidating every single vote in the country. There's no proof of fraud in Kansas or California, either.

 

Yes we are lol There’s multiple claims they weren’t validated properly. And if they WERE then what’s the problem with doing it in front of everyone again?

 

No, when the states stonewall verification that there was no fraud in front of partial observers there will be a problem.

 

Except for the part where that didn't happen, you are absolutely right.

 

So? If it proves anything, it proves the degeneration of the Republican party into the cult of Trump.

 

if the supreme Court does not rule in favor of trump many Republicans will declare them to be traitors

 

Six states have filed a Motion to Intervene on the Texas case today.

My understanding is that this filing asks not only to "support" the Texas case, but to be added as Plaintiff's against PA, GA, MI, and WI, and also add any complaints which Texas may have missed in its filing.

 

Conservative <> Pro Trump and/or Republican.

A conservative court will not get involved in a state's rights issue.

 

Those states violated their own election laws by making changes to election procedure without doing so through their respective states legislatures making a state constitutional amendment with the changes. They simply can't do that regardless of the reason.

 

Wanna make a friendly wager that the SCOTUS disagrees with you?

 

That may be true but Texas has no standing to sue Pennsylvania for how they dealt with their election laws

Only residents of Pennsylvania have that right

 

Oh? Ok.

So? That is why the Courts have been laughing at these cases?

Trump seems to have appointed a lot of Deep State Plants to the Federal.Bench.

 

The SC of PA has the final say, and they disagreed with you. SCOTUS can't get involved in a state matter. The SC of each state has the final say.

 

Interesting. So do you think Kentucky should have their votes thrown out considering the governor and SoS allowed for expanded mail in voting without growing through state legislature?

 

Really? I missed the recount with sig verification with partial observers. Oh you mean it DIDN’T happen, you just expect us to take the word of the people we are accusing of cheating when they tell us they already did that and it was all kosher.

 

No, the other cases were arguing fraud in the counting. Those 4 states violated their own election laws, making their election illegal. This makes the election results in legal terms "Fruit from the Poison Tree". The only reasonable solution is to give those states the time to re-vote.

 

To OP.

Well, there goes Texas trying to overturn whole states' votes! It wasn't enough that the Republican politicians try to disenfranchise individual voters through gerrymandering and attacking mail-in ballots.

 

I believe the suit will be tossed because TX doesn't have standing.

1. Would be unconstitutional to delay the electoral vote in four states. Oh yeah, one wonders how the petitioner didn't think this suit through at least on the merit of it's constitutionality. He should have filed this suit a long time ago. Moreover, many of the issues raised exist in red states, so why aren't those states included in the petition? See? It's obvious that the petitioner is not concerned about issues of 'constitution' and the motivation for the suit is that the petitioners ( Trump, Paxton, et al. ) merely didn't like the way the vote turned out, and seek to overturn it. Simply put, they are attempting to invalidate the core principle of what AMerica is all about, DEMOCRACY. The right for the people to hold free and fair elections.

2. Texas has no legal right to challenge how another state conducts its elections. We don't have a 'national' election, we have 50 state elections, and how is Texas harmed by an improprieties
(real or perceived) by an election, say in Wisconsin? So, there is a 'standing' issue here.

3. Legal claims have already been already fought over in lower courts. Most, if not all, the issues in the petition have been already fought over, (noting Trump lost on 50+ lawsuits save one, and that one was not about fraud) in lower courts, noting that the justices are certainly aware of this.

4. Seeks to invalidate around 20 million votes. Talk about a hot potato the size of Texas! I mean, I strongly suspect SCOTUS is in no mood to insert itself into election politics particularly where it is being asked to thwart the will of 20,000,000 voters who cast their ballots in good faith.

5. Appears to have been prepared in haste. This would irk any court, a sloppily put together lawsuit with a mish mash of not well thought out issues.


In my view, the long and short of this suit is that the petitioner, Paxton, since he has been under indictment since 2015 on securities fraud charges relating to activities prior to taking office; he has pleaded not guilty, and that, In October 2020, several high-level assistants in Paxton's office made allegations accusing him of "bribery, abuse of office and other crimes". So, this seems to be a subterfuge to put himself on Trump's pardon radar as he exits the office.

 

Did it violate their states election laws?

 

Texas and the other 17 states has standing as what those states did affects the outcome of the overall election and what they did violates election law in their respective states. Besides Paxton won't be arguing the case in front of the SCOTUS, Ted Cruz will.

 

it’s usually the argument they are trying to make!

That is, until the anonymous poster on parlar or the man in their radio told them to do the opposite.

 

State election laws are to be interpreted by state courts right? Texas is arguing that PA broke federal law by allowing non- state legislature make changed to the election code. Technically speaking, if that is indeed true, then Kentucky did violate federal law.

 

Pennsylvania election law is not the business of Texas to appeal.

Plus the fact the lawsuit is way too late.

It's one thing to ask the courts to throw out late ballots, but they are asking the entire election to be tossed. That is ridiculous and sad.

 

Right? They are arguing that a conservative court is going to get involved in a state's rights issue. They are confused as to what conservative means, in this context. They think it means a pro-Trump republican. Poor things.