How is the mob that took over the Capitol different from rioters during BLM protests?

I've seen right wingers try to excuse or justify or somehow ameliorate... the actions of this mob yesterday (1/6), by invoking riots during the BLM protesters.

So I thought I'd make a list of how the two episodes are different. I was thinking the list was going to be so long that any Trumper who read it would have no doubt that they are completely different.

I sat down to start the list. Guess what I concluded.... there aren't that many differences. They are both peaceful, constitutionally protected protests, in which small number of thugs decided to commit acts of violence.

They are pretty much the same. Sure... the Januray 6 rioters attacked the Capitol (while Congress was in session), while the BLM attacked private businesses and other buildings. And the police presence and response in one was immensely more decisive in one and not the other. And, of course, it just so happens that I agree with BLM and not with these protesters. But all that is just coincidental. Nothing of any real "weight"....

Other than that, they are pretty much the same!!

Except for one small detail: BLM never incited the violence. They never condoned it, and they always unequivocally denounced it. Trump DID incite to violence, condoned it, and most definitely never denounced the perpetuators. As a matter of fact, he said to them "I love you" and "You're special!"

So there you have it. If you take away whether you agree with the grievances, or what specific buildings were attacked, or how... that's the only difference that is left.

The protesters have the same right to protest. The rioters in one event and the other are equally despicable. The one and ONLY difference is who incited the riots. In the case of BLM, it was the rioters themselves. In the case of January 6... it was Trump!

 

Mad BLM looted some Footlockers during several months. Mad Trump supporters shut down the federal government in an hour. Who would win?

Just giving this thread the gravitas it deserves.

 

Trump never incited violence. He told the patriots to not be violent.

 

A lot less property destruction.

 

The Capitol mob has a higher body count.

 

A police guard just DIED from injuries sustained yesterday.

Trump is GUILTY OF MURDER. HE KILLED A POLICEMAN.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...20/capitol-police-died-riots-dc-b1784215.html

HOW can his being President be tolerated now?

 

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the blm riots erupted nationwide, went on for months and they're still going on
blm destroyed billions of dollars worth of property
blm made demands based on race
blm receives donations from cities, counties, countries and celebs
blm got bailed out by celebs and obama's flunkies
blm assaulted people based on race
blm called for the murder of cops and actually murdered cops
blm has politicians in their pocket
blm got to meet with Clinton and Obama
blm are racists
blm are terrorists
blm is a racist hate group

 

Keep ignoring reality.

 

blm 'protests.' Protests? You're a funny guy.

 

When the right stoops to the tactics of the left civil war is rarely far behind.

Trump has gone too far, he single handedly ****ed the Georgia election and has ushered in the next 4 years of struggle sessions and desecration of liberties.

 

That's false. When CHAZ was still around 2 deaths occurred from shootings.

 

Five died as a result of yesterdays stupidity, including one cop. First grade math beats feel-facts.

 

I hold Trump responsible for what happened.

However:
As much as I hate what happened and seeing any policemen hurt,, no where in your link does it say he is guilty of murder nor would any court ever find him guilty of murder.

 

I gave only one example (one from the top of my head at that). If I really wanted to I could cite all of the shootings, cop injuries (including cop deaths), businesses destroyed of the BLM/Antifa riots.

And facts are facts. There is no such thing as "feel-facts". Except maybe in lefty land.

 

"Struggle sessions".....??

The next 4 years will see a return to quiet and effective governance that actually accomplishes things and doesn't spend the vast majority of its time and your money in ideological wrangling that nobody cares about.

You're gonna get sick of winning

 

That would mean Obama was responsible for about 15 police officers deaths after speaking about Ferguson.

 

I am less optimistic, but I hope so. Historically a party in control of both Houses of Congress and the White House is a dangerous thing.

I think Joe Manchin is going to become the most hated man in America.

 

Possibly. A small amount of research leads me to the opinion that he would not much like being loved.

Anything powerful and effective is dangerous. A steam locomotive will kill you painfully in a trifling instant for the smallest lapse, yet it remains possibly the most beneficial device mankind has ever invented. Fear mires us in the shallows of life and progress alike.

 

What do you mean?

 

People who accomplish things are never much liked

 

To be perfectly clear, it's not just what Trump did, but what he failed to do

When someone runs for public office there is a standard of conduct that comes with that, and it's not a mere matter of being a good sport, but respecting the electoral process. I actually made a thread showing every concession speech since they began televising our elections. The whole purpose of the concession speech isn't just a matter of showing dignity and grace in defeat, but also respecting the electoral process, and the fact of the matter is Trump did not meet this standard, but instead decided to go in the opposite direction.

And I want to make myself perfectly clear here, I am not talking about simply challenging the election results, but outright disrespecting the entire legal and electoral process as a whole. It's completely fine if a candidate wants a recount, or an audit of the ballots, or requests an investigation, or wants a court review.. but what is not okay is to demand all of these things, then not accept their unanimous conclusion, and then tell your supporters that each and every one of these processes, along with the election itself are rigged.

Donald Trump mislead his supporters, he told them that he had won, and that he needed them to fight for him to save our democracy. He repeated unverified, and often times outright dishonest claims about the election. Then he promoted a protest on the day the election would be certified, and even held a rally to promote that protest titled "Save America". Then he told his followers that Mike Pence has the legal authority to reject certifying the electoral college (which is 100% false) and then told them to go protest the process at the capital

I'll put it to you this way, there is a reason why he is the only candidate in history to have this issue, and there's a reason why 9 people in his administration resigned within 24 hours that the riots occurred. Look, we've seen riots in the past, many times before, but we have never seen such a direct assault on our democracy. The last time our capital was breached in such a manner was the war of 1812, and all of this was avoidable. Had Donald Trump handled his loss in the same manner as every other losing candidate in US history, none of this would have happened.

I should also add that the message he gave in his concession speech was good, but the message he put out the day before was not. He still encouraged the turmoil that was going on, and he did not address the ongoing violence. He instead said to "maintain peace" as if that line had not already been breached, and even seemed to celebrate what happened by saying "Remember this day forever!". What he should have done in that moment is put out the same message as Mike Pence, that would have been the practical thing to do

 

Debatable, but the larger point is that political violence has no place in America.

 

Short memory, or are you not good at counting?

Another Fatal Shooting in Seattle's 'CHOP' Protest Zone - The ...
www.nytimes.com › 2020/06/29 › seattle-protests-CHOP-...

Jun 30, 2020 — City officials have vowed to dismantle the free-protest area set up during anti-police demonstrations and retake the Capitol Hill police station.

 

No. Neither Obama, nor Trump are responsible for the riots. Every person is responsible for their own actions. Blaming people that took no part, nor called for a riot, is nothing more than deflecting.