Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All due respect, but yes we do. Trump has not only dont his type of thing during his presidency, he has done it his whole life. Trump making the claims that the election was stolen were meant to incite. He has been telling his base since the day after the election was called, that they were stolen from and that they need to fight back. He then asked them to come march on Washington, and just before they did he told them to literally "fight like hell". Many people showed up in Washington last week base don that.

    Trump has built his entire career on obfuscating what he says to cover what he is doing. This isnt new to his presidency, he has literally built his entire life on it. Hell, his very first building, Trump Tower, he got a tax break on it because he played word games with the NY State tax authority.
     
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  2. maxLiberal

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    he lied to his terrorists that he would be in the streets with them onto the Capitol and they went charging as ordered.
    it doesn't get any more cut n dried than this. that he hasn't been behind bars for days tells you America has lost.
     
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    World Leaders Denounce Big Tech Censorship of President Donald Trump

    ...German Chancellor Angela Merkel called Twitter's ban on Trump "problematic," and said that freedom of opinion is an essential right of "elementary significance,"

    ..."This fundamental right can be intervened in, but according to the law and within the framework defined by legislators not according to a decision by the management of social media platforms," Siebert said.

    ..."Seen from this angle, the chancellor considers it problematic that the accounts of the U.S. president have now been permanently blocked," he said.

    ...Clement Beaune, the junior minister for European Union affairs, said he was "shocked" a private company made this kind of decision.

    ..."This should be decided by citizens, not by a CEO," he told Bloomberg TV on Monday. "There needs to be public regulation of big online platforms."

    ...French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire also condemned the move and said that tech giants were part of a digital oligarchy that was a threat to democracy.

    ..."We cannot leave it to American Big Tech to decide how we can or cannot discuss online. Today's mechanisms destroy the compromise searching and consensus-building that are crucial in free and democratic societies. We need a stricter regulatory approach," he wrote on Twitter on Jan. 11.

    ...Meanwhile, Norway's left-wing Labor Party leader Jonas Gahr Stre said that Big Tech censorship threatens political freedom around the world.

    He said Twitter needs to apply the same standard globally that it did to Trump.

    "This is a line where freedom of expression is also at stake," said Stre. "If Twitter starts with this sort of thing, it means that they have to go around the world and look at other people completely astray, and shut them out."


    ...The Australian government has also called the ban on Trump an act of "censorship."

    ...Acting Prime Minister Michael McCormack said, "There's been a lot of people who have said and done a lot of things on Twitter previously that haven't received that sort of condemnation or indeed censorship. I'm not one who believes in that sort of censorship."

    ...Treasurer Josh Frydenberg said he was uncomfortable with Twitter's ban on Trump. "Those decisions were taken by commercial companies, but personally, I felt uncomfortable with what they did," he said.

    Quoting Voltaire's famous line: "I may not agree with what you say, but I defend the right to say it," Frydenberg said that freedom of speech is fundamental to a democratic society.

    ...Fellow Liberal Party member and senator, Alex Antic, said he will push for a Senate Select Committee into Big Tech's influence and censorship of political ideas when the Australian Parliament resumes next month.

    ...Mexican President Manuel Lpez Obrador also echoed his global counterparts, with Reuters reporting that he said it was a bad sign when private companies try to censor opinion.

    Obrador said a "court of censorship like an inquisition to manage public opinion."

    ...In Russia, the opposition leader, Alexey Navalny, who is an outspoken anti-corruption campaigner, said he believed the ban was an unacceptable form of censorship and was based not on a genuine need but rather Twitter's political preferences.

    He noted that this pattern had been seen before in both Russian and China when big companies utilise their position to become a government best friend and enabler when it comes to state-based censorship laws.

    "This precedent will be exploited by the enemies of freedom of speech around the world. In Russia as well. Every time when they need to silence someone, they will say: 'this is just common practice, even Trump got blocked on Twitter,'" he wrote on Twitter.
     
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    Nobody ordered anybody to "charge" the Capitol. President Trump said "walk down there and cheer".
     
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    that's a loud dog whistle to an angry armed bunch of loons looking to murder and overtake the USA. thx for admitting your part.
     
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    Par for the course, actually. Here are some snippets from newspapers over the years which show that prior "incitement" has been memory-holed by most folks today.
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    It is relevant as both are communication conduits that are used at utility levels. Remember when Trump tried to block people from responding to tweets?
     
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    How is the level of use relevant? It's not a utility, regardless of how many people use it.
     
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    Using corporations as soldiers against the opposing party is not small government. It is an abuse of power.
     
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    Those newspapers must be from 1814, correct? If not, they're not comparable to what happened on the 6th.
     
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    Wow a whopping 20% of the voting public. not maybe.
     
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    You're conflating private business with government
     
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    Ha, best I could get from newspapers.com. Pretty impressive text-search functions with that site and they offer a free trail if you're into archival research.
     
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    Which is exactly why banning Trump and purging 10's of thousands of conservatives over the weekend was such a bad idea.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    American "Liberals" are the least liberal "Liberals" in the world.
     
  16. ChiCowboy

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    Lol. Good find.

    The Capitol hasn't been breached since the War of 1812. What happened on the 6th was an attack on our country. That it was done by countrymen makes it the more despicable. That it was done in the name of the POTUS is unconscionable.
     
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    "dog whistle" is what people fall back on when they don't have any actual evidence to support their claim.
     
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    They've partnered over at least the last 30 years. They scratch each others' backs to line each others' pockets. The DINO/RINO Party have given advantages and loop holes which created an unlevel playing field for monopolies to form and dominate. This is not free and fair capitalism. This is an existential threat.
     
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    fake news has been the hater's mantra for 4yrs, denial is essential to their survival as much as repeating traitor trump's lies.
     
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    Not this idiotic claim again.

    In 1954 actual terrorists, Puerto Rican nationalists, "breached" the Capitol and shot 5 Congressmen. Jimmy Carter pardoned those terrorists.

    In 1971, Obama's buddies planted and detonated a bomb inside the Capitol, doing hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage.

    And in 1983, another leftist terrorist group detonated a bomb in the Capitol.

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    Now that Trump and many conservative voices were purged from social media, the Left is coming after their "Enemy List" of our elected leaders and right-wing journalists now. The silencing of "dissidents" is beginning. Expect high profile political prisoners with little to no due process around the next corner.

    "Big Lie" is trended on Twitter. It is all political attacks from Left-Wing politicians, journalists and institutions against the Right.

    https://twitter.com/search?q="Big Lie"&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

    Several examples:

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    In what way is ridicule an intellectual challenge?

    And the reason Parler exists is because Twitbook cancelled conservative accounts.
     
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    My mistake. You are correct. What was done in the name of Trump is more despicable than what you've shown here. Bunch of violent criminals. In the name of Donald Trump. Tell me, where among those examples did the terrorists act in the name of the POTUS?
     
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    No. A dog whistle is a signal, a sign. Like secret code. WWG1WGA. See? Code.
     
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    That nuke button has been within reach for 4 years.
     
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