Impeaching President Trump Over Capitol Incident Is Mega-political Corruption!

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  1. JimfromPennsylvania

    JimfromPennsylvania Active Member Past Donor

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    The apparent imminent impeachment effort against President Trump is all about politics not only from the Democrats side but surprisingly also from the Republican side. Republican powers to be are besides themselves that Donald Trump currently has political war chests of over $200 million dollars and with his popularity and ruthlessness Donald could be incredibly destructive in Republican leadership's effort to retake power in Washington. If President Trump is impeached he cannot run for the Presidency again so his interest in politics will wane and thus his destructive effect in the Republican Party will wane. When you see heavy weight Republican establishment figures like Liz Cheney, Mitch McConnell and Pat Toomey say so clearly that the case for impeachment lies when a minimally competent review of the facts would indicate an impeachment effort would be an affront to America's legal tool of "impeachment", impeachment is all about permanently sidelining Donald Trump. America should not see this happen because although President Trump from a character standpoint is woefully unfit to be President and is a cancer on our society as he spews and grows hate in America our Democratic system should not be subverted to get rid of him because if it can be subverted to get rid of one person who else could the powers that be in America use it to get rid of could it be subverted to get rid of a person(s) that believes that the globalization economic model is evil true true evil as it is responsible for destroying countless lives.

    The powers that be in America are blowing what happened this past Wednesday out of proportion it was not an armed insurrection there was no intent to overthrow America's government it was a group of citizens holding beliefs shared by many Americans that the past election was inundated with fraud that it was a fixed election and what their intention was in entering the Capitol on Wednesday was to stop the Congressional certification of the Electoral College vote count so as to provide an opportunity for Congress to certify Donald Trump as having won the election who they believe did in fact win the election absent the fraud that took place. It was "civil disobedience" that took place and yes prosecutions should take place as the rule of law must be respected but the rioting that took place on January 6th is America's natural democracy at work there is no reason for alarm with those citizens actions there should be alarm with Security authorities incompetency beyond words in not having security precautions in place to protect the Capitol and the people that work there. What also really needs to stop in the media and government forums is all the hype about the rioters intrusion of the Capitol at the "US attorney of D.C." press conference today the U.S. attorney was behaving like there was a coup attempt in America and he has all these staffing groups working on tracking down and bringing charges against the actors. It is really misplaced such government officials throwing around repeatedly the word "sedition" with the rioters behavior; sure technically many of the rioters probably committed seditious acts because they through the use of force opposed federal lawful authority but that is not want the American people's view of sedition is their view is sedition refers to behavior in the category of overthrowing the government. Government officials need to remember that if they go on a sedition round up rampage on this Capitol incident they should have done it on many of the Black Lives Matter rioting like the violent attacks against the Federal Courthouse in Portland Oregon - it is an unfair America when there are two standards that are applied such unfairness should be rejected.

    You know this so called insurrection that took place on January 6th if you check the security records the intrusion of the Capitol lasted less than two-a half hours and we want to impeach a President because at worst he was responsible for essentially two and a half hours of trespass, misdemeanor assault and vandalism it is a national embarrassment such an impeachment effort. Hell House and Senate debates where a Party's speakers let their tempers override their brains have probably lead to what could be labeled seditious behavior lasting longer than two and a half hours! This citizen has written before that the mind boggling egregious failure in Capitol Security authorities carrying out their duty for January 6th could raise suspicion that this whole Capitol intrusion incident was a set-up to provide the basis to impeach President Donald Trump and thereby get him permanently out of American politics. One other observation about that January 6th incident adds to that suspicion; members of Congress when they are in the Capitol routinely have a cadre of their staffers around them watching them interact is like watching a NFL coach on the sidelines during a game interreacting with players and staff; during this January 6th intrusion where by God were all the Congressional staffers the American public should have seen videos and heard stories of staffers being accosted, apprehended and assaulted by the rioters and protesters. Were the Congressional staffers tipped off that there was likely going to be a riot at the Capitol and the rioters would intrude the Capitol so for your own safety stay away from the Capitol, if there was this broad Congressional staffer warning that went out it would add to the evidence that mischief went on with this Jan. 6th incident, it was a set-up!
     
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    Indlib Well-Known Member

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    ...i have no words.
     
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    No crimes were committed by protesters at the direction of Trump. He 'incited' nothing, and this narrative is the only response our corrupt establishment has to the political danger an impromptu march on Washington of a million people against it represents.
     
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    I guess the OP forgot about the people killed.
     
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    I'll just keep posting this

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    Power has completely gone to Pelosi's head. As angry, spiteful and vicious as she has been the last 2 years, she is a danger to the country and should be removed from office for sedition.

    Pence just told her today that asking for the 25th Amendment is unconstitutional. He will not go along with her desire to usurp power. Her 2nd option to impeach is politically motivated and frivolous.

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    He specifically told the crowd at the rally to be peaceful.



    Then, when it was happening he tweeted for the idiots rioting to "be peaceful" and "go home".

    Granny and the Viking were not going to overthrow the government. This is the Establishment trying to kill off any bit of influence Trump has and it will backfire dramatically. I am looking more forward to a DeSantis, Cruz, Pence, Rand Paul, or Gabbard type of leader, but if they make Trump a martyr he will remain a rallying cry for decades. The Democrats are famous for overplaying their hand. I welcome the entertainment.
     
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    Oh look insurrection AND sedition. the case is getting stronger by the day. The FBI is coming for them all.
     
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    Now that only counts when it's the "wrong" side.
     
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    You are going to need a link.
     
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    Lol...that’s a lot of polish. Too bad nobody believes it anymore.
     
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    Quite an OPINION.

    Not really a "Current Event":bored:

    You posted this in the Wrong Section.

    But, since you want to pump up view count by posting it in the Wrong Section, I guess that I will weigh in.

    I Disagree with your Opinion.

    The People who attacked the Capitol were Domestic Terrorists (Inspired by Trump) and they deserve to receive the Maximum Penalties and Trump (obviously) deserves to be Impeached, Tried, Convicted, and Removed.
     
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    Yes to the bold... that's the ridiculous way it was set up in the constitution that the alt-right claims to love, yet clearly doesn't understand.

    Did you have any other questions?
     
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    What isn't political these days? And the corrupt democrat party is covering for their lies and corruption.
     
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    I agree that he did not incite violence. I have disavowed him because of his actions leading up to the Georgia election that handed complete control of government to Democrats just to stroke his ego, and this stolen election nonsense.

    I agree - mail in as opposed to absentee voting is a bad idea, but the voting system in the United States is states controlled with good reason, and any attempt to change this passed when states appointed their EC reps.

    Everything beyond that point has been sabotage, intentional or otherwise.
     
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    Exactly.

    "impeachment is all about permanently sidelining Donald Trump."

    What is NEXT?

    A thread exp!aiming to the board that 1+1=2?
     
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    it's bipartisan, Trump is gonna be impeached a second time, that is one for the history books
     
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    you do know Trump was getting away with his tweets back then too... only when it incited violence did Twitter start enforcing their rules

    and of course that was about Russia interfering with our election, which was true - what Trump is doing is spreading lies

    Trump's tweets were inciting a deadly coup on the capital
     
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    Totally Epic and well-deserved.

    Trump's STAINED "Legacy".:smh:
     
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    doombug Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, he will be right up there with that scoundrel Abraham Lincoln.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump made Nixon look good
     
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    Kool-Aid/Red #40 overdoses ain't pretty... :roll:
     
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    Lol...only unreconstructed racists consider Lincoln a scoundrel.
    All patriotic Americans now consider trump a scoundrel.
     
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    You are apparently sarcasm impaired.
     
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    As long as he did not make Jimmy Carter look good, who cares?
     
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