DID THE DEMOCRATS STEAL THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION?

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  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    The bolded line is Trumper evidence, in a nutshell.
     
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    It aint stealing if you dont get caught. Lets hope democrats can put as much brains into policy as they did into cheating
    They rule everything now. Better to hope they do well than wish for their failure
     
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    No.

    And it’s amazing to me that you think democrats are smart enough and organized enough to pull such a thing off. Come on.

    The answer is staring you directly in the face.

    Trump’s approval rating has never been above 50%. Always languishing in the low 40’s... mirroring the popular vote totals.
    He spent his time in office dividing the country, scapegoating everyone but his base, ridiculing everyone else with his thumbs.
    His response to the epidemic was an absolute disaster.
    He had no campaign discipline at all. Could have run on judicial appointments and Warp Speed; never seemed to mention either unprecedented success.

    He lost. It’s not a conspiracy.

    To steal an election takes *years* of systematic effort, gerrymandering, vote caging, and voter suppression... you know, the stuff the GOP has the organization and will to execute.
     
  4. Independent4ever

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    It is just amazing how Trumpers everywhere just regurgitate all of Trump's talking (tweeting) points as is, no questions asked
     
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  5. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Fake News. Dems have deliberately sought and obtained rules that make legal vote totals impossible to have confidence in, and now they are fighting tooth and nail to prevent reforms that would give us honest elections. The reasons behind you positions are not difficult to discern.
     
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    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Fake News. But, apparently questioning elections isn't the grave unforgivable sin like Dems have been shrieking it is, you just questioned several election results in one sentence. So, let's get it fixed!
    • Make sure all legal voters can vote, once.
    • Secure the ballots with chain of custody security like they are bank deposits.
    • Ensure vote counting procedures that are fully transparent and verifiable.
    These are obvious reforms that would secure confidence that everyone is getting a fair deal on election day, yet, you are one of the few even willing to consider these sensible reforms. But, this makes so much sense that I'm confident that at some point our view will carry the day.
     
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  7. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    And yet you do not questions the vote totals in the states Trump won who used the same voter methods as the swing states.
    Forgive me if I don't take you seriously.
     
  8. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Yup. And this time the vote rigging comes with censorship.

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    Good god, let it go man. No one stole anything, trump is a LOSER! he LOST the election all on his own, fair and square!
    Get over it or seek help.
     
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  10. Zorro

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    • Fake News. An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump

    • An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump

    • A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump

    • An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump.
    All middle of the night, with the GOP observers gone. There is no chain of custody on those ballots that ensures they are legally cast. And the vote counting was stretched out long enough, that if they needed more late night vote drops, by golly, they would have had them.

    As for Dems hysterically shrieking that their view is the received one, and if you don't immediately adopt it and proclaim it that you are part of some great evil, my goodness, you guys do that on every topic. Nothing new there.

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    Forgive me if I don't take you seriously.
     
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  11. Zorro

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    Fake News. You want national agreement on election results?

    Then join us to ensure:

    • All legal voters can vote, once.
    • Secure the ballots with chain of custody security like they are bank deposits.
    • Ensure vote counting procedures that are fully transparent and verifiable.

    But don't worry. Everyone knows why the Left is completely against common sense election security measures.

    We get the propaganda spews from the Left on every topic. It's relentless and nonsensical, which is why it's increasingly unpersuasive.

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  12. Curious Yellow

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    Maybe you could define “everything”?

    Pretty sure the judicial branch is thoroughly reshaped and solidified by McConnell and Trump’s work over the past ~6 years?

    Thinking they also control a majority of Governorships and state houses as well... which control districting, re-districting, and overall policy alignment?

    I mean, have a good look at what you’re saying right?
     
  13. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Where were you after the 2016 election that the Left never accepted as legitimate? You seriously believe that everyone doesn't see the double standard that the Left uses, on everything?

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    Even Stevie Wonder can see it.
     
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    Your little photo shopped pics are cute aren't they?
     
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    Crazy
     
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    All carping aside, that graphic is really funny. Nice work.
     
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  19. Zorro

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    Memes. They are what's for breakfast.

    But, sensible election reform, so we don't go through this again, it's a worthwhile effort.
    • All legal voters can vote, once.
    • Secure the ballots with chain of custody security like they are bank deposits.
    • Ensure vote counting procedures that are fully transparent and verifiable.
    The points are so obvious, I'm confident that at some point, they will be implemented into law. And the continuous Fake News propaganda blitzes by the clearly incompetent, seriously, you don't find them embarrassing?

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    An actual CNN correction. . .​
     
  20. Zorro

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    Hell yeah!

    Over the last 350,000 years of human history we are among the most fortunate to ever walk the planet. Indoor plumbing, warm indoor toilets, refrigerators full of food, and oven to cook it on, fresh water that you know isn't going to kill you from dysentery, hell, we finally went through a plague and most of us got fat waiting for the next shipment of supplies to arrive on our door stop from amazon while we watched netflix all day. I think most people that have ever lived would jump at the opportunity to switch lives with us.

    As for our "experiment", we have the longest surviving democracy in existence today, as well as one of the longest surviving governments in existence, period. Most humans have lived under either anarchy or totalitarianism, we hit the jackpot with this "We The People" because whereas most government fall when the large dominated group finally overthrows and slaughters the much smaller dominating group, we have no need to do so, because we already have the power we would gain by revolution, so there is no point, but, threats to our ever perfecting democracy are constantly arising that require our diligence and clearly election procedures are on the front burner now.

    Voting by mail is extremely convenient as is a longer voting period, I doubt that we will give that up, but of course a massive change in procedures exposes weaknesses and gaps that have to be strengthened, and I think these three points are so obvious that at some point there will be widespread agreement and implementation.
    • All legal voters can vote, once.
    • Secure the ballots with chain of custody security like they are bank deposits.
    • Ensure vote counting procedures that are fully transparent and verifiable.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Where were you? Did you miss it? Hillary started screaming how the election was rigged and refused to concede to trump. A bunch of us got together just before the election was cast in stone to protest but that didn't work. We figured we'd wait till 2020 to get even.​
     
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    So, you figure we'll start getting even in 2022 and then really get even in 2024?

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    Hell. Yes. I love the sentiments being expressed here man. We are the luckiest people to have ever walked the earth. An embarrassment of riches. Thank YOU.
     
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    DID THE REPUBLICANS STEAL ALL OF THE ELECTIONS IN THE VARIOUS STATES WHERE THEY GOT PEOPLE ELETCTED???????A DUMB QUESTION WITH A DUMB ANSWER !!!!!
     
  25. Zorro

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    Of course not. The late night ballot dumbs in the questioned states only had votes in the presidential race.
    • Fake News. An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump
    So a race that was consistently turning in vote totals of 49.8% vs 50.2% has a late night dump when no one is there that is 4% Trump and 96% Biden? SMFH
    • An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump
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    No matter how many votes would have been necessary for Dems to win these states, a late night dump would have mysteriously showed up. ​

    • An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump.
    • A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump
    [​IMG]

    If you really want to win fair and square where no one can doubt your victory, join us in making sure we have sensible ballot reform that ensures:
    • All legal voters can vote, once.
    • Secure the ballots with chain of custody security like they are bank deposits.
    • Ensure vote counting procedures that are fully transparent and verifiable.
    These are goals so imminently reasonable and obviously necessary that I'm confident that they will be implemented as a national standard as soon as enough of us give the subject reasonable consideration.
     

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