Out of Brexit into Canzuk?

Mr. Peter MacKay was M. P. for the riding that I live in, Central Nova, N. S., Canada for many years.......
the man, in my opinion is brilliant...... and one of the most talented debaters and diplomats in Canada. ... and because he did not win the Canadian Conservative Party leadership he is less busy than he would be ordinarily.......


Which high profile PPC candidates will CPC National Leader Peter MacKay flip first?

If some of us Nova Scotians and New Brunswickers would play the role of something like a "DAMSEL IN DISTRESS".... AND IF the USA could come to our rescue..........

..... that idea might just be marketable to a significant portion of the population of the third rock?????


Residents of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick are facing a rather simple mathematical problem that forces us to take a rather dim view of a Carbon Tax.
.... "If average ocean levels rose by eight to ten cms (3 or 4 inches) could high tide...
... rise by one meter in the Isthmus of Chignecto in Nova Scotia, Canada?
This question is logical because the geography of Canada's Bay of Fundy produces the world's highest tides. In my part of Nova Scotia in Guysborough County there is very little funnelling of tidal waters......... so high tide is only about one to one point five meters above low tide.
In the eastern area of the Bay of Fundy high tide levels are up by ten to fifteen meters."


Every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the water table of Israel, California, Algeria, Qatar, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Nevada, South Africa, India or any other nation with lots of desert is really good news for the owners of the real estate along the Bay of Fundy and of Anchorage Alaska that have the second most extreme tides in the world for very similar reasons.
High tide waters are funnelled by the Bay of Fundy into a more and more narrow area and on top of that......... the Bay of Fundy is over one hundred and seventy miles long so high tide water cannot fully drain back into the ocean before the next high tide waters pile on top of them.

 

What a surreal video. It can't seem to get straight what it it is talking about and it acts as if this is something people actually know about & take an interest in.

I'm pretty focussed on politics here in Australia and I've never heard any discussion of a 'union' beyond perhaps some sort of free trade or freedom of movement zone, and that talk seems to come from the UK. That makes me suspect it is yet another example of Boris BSing to distract from what a godawfully bad job he's doing.

There really doesn't seem to be much to this. Australia & New Zealand already have arrangements on trade & residency. That makes sense. We are close to each other & our economies are closely intertwined. Canada & the UK are literally on the other side of the world. There is also the size differential, which makes EU style freedom of movement & residency problematic in such a small 'union'. On the 'free trade' front, British farmers aren't going to stand by & let Australian, NZ & Canadian produce flood into their country. Since that is most of what we want to sell to the UK does it really advantage anyone much?

On the issue of some sort of political union, NO NO NO NO NO. Never. In the EU there were too many nations for one or even two to completely dominate. This is four nations, the biggest of which is ten times larger than the smallest. As monumentally crap as Australia's political class is, the last 12 months (and much time before) have shown that we are literally light years ahead of the UK. Any nation that puts Boris Johnson & Jeremy Corbyn up as major party leaders simultaneously can stay well away from my nation. We have spent several centuries extracting what talent the UK has to offer and giving it life in the sun. I have no interest in letting those too lacking in initiative to move somewher better have a say in how my country runs. Oh, and Quebecers seem completely nuts, so they can F off too. Plus New Zealand has an impressively good government. No way they want the rest of us numpties messing it up.

Just on the 'Cambodia & ASEAN' example, it doesn't work well here. ASEAN isn't like an Asian version of the EU and it doesn't involve the sort of 'union' this video seems to propose. Not even close. Further, all the nations of ASEAN are in the same geographic area. That means changing trade arrangements could have a significant impact. In Cambodia's case it joined ASEAN only a decade after the end of Vietnamese occupation and only 5 years after the Khmer Rouge finally made peace. During that period Cambodia had been a war torn economic backwater not fully in control of its own economy. Joining ASEAN was an undoubted bonus to Cambodia given its geographic centrality, but that also happened at the same time the economy was picking up for other reasons. With the Khmer Rouge gone trade over the Thai border & tourism to Angkor were suddenly much more viable. The fully developed economies of the imaginary 'CANZUK' group don't have as much to offer each other.

Personally I'd be happier to join ASEAN. We are already part of the larger ASEAN Regional Forum and have close links to Indonesia, Singapore, Malaysia & Thailand. We trade heavily into the area and could trade more. However, I don't think ASEAN wants us. I am also keen for closer links to India. Canada & the UK don't seem to offer that much by comparison.

 

I think UK Brexiteer's would be rather disheartened if we were to leave one union and instantaneously sign ourselves up to another, albeit a much smaller, more wider ranging and suitable one.

I don't understand these 'unions' and 'blocks', this makes no sense to me... The UK should now pursue individual trade deals... Not get caught up in these 'Freedom of Movement' and 'Pay your membership fee!' Blocks & Unions...

Trade wise it would work fantastically for Aus, NZ and Canada... These countries have raw materials we would like to purchase... In return we can offer you nothing as our industry died long ago...

Too many Cons for all four nations I believe ...

Also UK folk would emigrate in their droves to any three of those countries to escape this current calamity... So any skilled labour we have would soon jump ship.

 

There is no way a unity would be successful if all the people were not English speaking - and it has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with similar culture and standards.

I don't know if anyone has realized it, but people who speak a different language think differently - and the further their language is from English the greater the difference. This is not a condemnation of others, but a fact and it should be recognized and respected as well.

 

says who? In order for this to work, we can't let the twits that shot themselves in the testes, run the joint.

 

Canadians are historically well aware of the cultural differences of language. Which is why we are officially multicultural. There are all kinds of "unity" and ours seems to have worked out pretty damn well. for all our bitchin' Canadians are almost universally smugly relieved that they are Canadians.

 

The similarity in the thought processes between a European language, albeit a Latin one rather than a Germanic one, I think would be minimal compared to that of a non European language. Anyway this is just my opinion.

 

Linguistics is a fascinating science. I agree common constructs across a language group indicate common frames of reference if not attitude.

 

@Jonsa



Teach da Hindu English and still
will never be unity compatible with
the original White, English speaking nations.

Do I sense a "thought crime"?


Moi

STOP
Trudeau not English​

 

thought crimes are never far away when we fence.

 

I think the reason to keep India out of CANZUK is that its population is just too big. It would overwhelm everyone else. Thats also a reason to keep USA out.

 

Read that from a fortune cookie ?

Or are you ready to take down your front yard fence

 

how did you know I was a fortune cookie aficionado? do you know how much I've spend on chinese food over the years just to add to my collection?

I sold the fence and donated the proceeds to our ever expanding border hedge.

 

As a Canadian this proposition is nonsensical. Despite sensitivities, reality is that Canada and the US are an integrated continental economic unit. Neither of us would be as prosperous without the other. The notion of "excluding America" may not be quite as bizarre as was in the pre trump era, but it remains bizarre nonetheless.

 

Au contraire

would be more prosperous.
And the Wisconsin dairy industry more secure
with a fair market system.

 

I do not see the U.K. as being receptive to this idea since they just got divorced from the EU. Just like people who divorce countries should be careful not to jump from the proverbial frying pan into the fire. Does joining a "Union" make sense for the U.K.? No! Not at the time anyway.
Wouldn't it be better to enhance whatever structure there is of Commonwealth?
Would a tight trade arrangement be a better choice ? The discussion as to include us, the USA or not is a touchy question. As someone else pointed out Canada and the US is indeed defacto partially integrated with Canada so if Canada is in some "union ". is some degree the uS is also. A union such as the EU will not be popular with in the US and do the other union candidates want a country where the head of state albeit an outgoing one extols domestic terrorists to conduct a coup by attacking the seatbof government? Probably not.

 

Took the bait hook line and sinker on that bigly NAFTA 2.0 mega trumpian victory. A few tens of millions in dairy products and we kept all the goodies we wanted including dispute resolution and a huge chunk of TPP so we could remain inline with that deal. Yep really got us there alright. Art of the deal like you wouldn't believe.

 

Enjoy the ice

 

I like my scotch neat.

 

From uniting into essentially one nation? That very much makes sense to Canadians. Canada's national identity is build very much on NOT being the USA. And you're not the only Canadian in this thread

 

Look how well that worked out!

Free the Provinces
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Worked out about as well as it could have. We didn’t have Trump as our president for one.

 

No not as one nation. As an integrated economic unit. You are totally correct, Canadians are PROUD that they aren't Americans and no more so than these past four years, as our public opinion polls have consistently reported.

Your suggestion that my perception and belief in the values of my country is not uniquely definitive, is a tour de force of MAGA profundity.