Biden dismisses Uighur genocide as part of China’s ‘different norms.’

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  1. chris155au

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    When did I say that the media never televised Trump's speeches and rallies?
     
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    You left out the context in the OP. I guess you are no better than the media.
     
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    Doesn't mean that I said that there WAS no context.
     
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    The media does the same thing. They don't really talk about there being no other context, they just leave stuff out. You have to be better than the media to call them out.
     
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    Remember obamas hot mic? Tell vlad I will be able to ease up after the election...
     
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    What about it?
     
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    If what Biden said was my main point, then sure.
     
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    As pointed out before, the media broadcasted Trump's comments/speeches/rallies from start to end, so why do you keep repeating this falsehood?

    How do you figure the media left Trump's context out if they broadcasted his speeches from start to end? Sure, sometimes people wondered what his context was, because there seemed to be none, but that is not the media's fault, that is Trump's own fault.
     
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    Uyghur's are PARTICULARLY targeted.
     
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    Specifically aboriginal people?
     
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    So if someone referred to it as a "genocide, but it's no big deal", that wouldn't be downplaying it?
     
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    But he didn't say that. How many different people have to explain it to you before you get it?

    You are playing a silly partisan game. You liked Trump, which is why you said nothing about this during the 4 years when he didn't do anything about, and now you want to display fake outrage because the there is a new president.

    What do you want Biden to do? Start a war against China to save the Muslims there?

    This is what his message to China was: "Well, there will be repercussions for China, and he (Xi) knows that.”

    Heck, feel free to believe what you want. It does not seem like you are willing to look at things in context, so this is becoming a waste of time.
     
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    Yep a clear and obvious case of collusion. Should have been impeached that day.
     
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    Should presidents be impeached for talking to heads of other countries? As a chief diplomat is it pretty much their job. Trump was accused colluding with Russians before he became president.
     
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    Even if he wasn't your main point, your post "lied" by omission by leaving out context. I believe the media is screwed up. But to attack them we have to be very factual and look at both sides and the evidence.
     
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    How the hell does broadcasting someone's speeches from start to end prevent people from taking the person out of context later on, even weeks or months later?
     
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    I didn't say that he DID say that! I'm making the point that it is STILL possible to call it a genocide, but STILL downplay it! Biden called it a genocide, but this doesn't mean that he didn't downplay it!

    I didn't say that I want Biden to DO anything about it!

    Correct. He also called the genocide a "different norm!"

    I can look at context, no matter who it is in relation to. The dominant democrat establishment media on
    the other hand are demonstrating that they're more than capable of looking at context for Biden, just not for Trump.
     
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    Your claim is that the media NEVER revealed the context of Trumps comments/speeches/press conferences/etc, and I proved you dead wrong. They televised his words from start to end, and by doing that they laid out the context for all to see.

    Your source, however, does the opposite. They refuse to show the whole speech/interview, and instead cherry picks few words, and then create false context in order to misrepresent the person. That's propaganda, and this thread proves you fell for it.

    Trump TRIED to blame the media for making him look bad, but the truth is that all they had to do is broadcast him in action and the outcome was what it was. Everything he said was saturated with lies, and THAT made him look bad. When you see a politician attack the media, you know they are in deep trouble, because its a classic deflection and attempt to shift the blame away from oneself.
     
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    only true if the salary and living condition is higher than others. with higher tax and raise of better salary ppl start moving to other countries or state.
     
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    they are targeted cause they were some separatism/domestic terrorism in the group cause some dmg in 2009-2014, hence why CCP crush uyghur so hard.. there are 56 ethnic group in China.
     
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    Sure, I thought of that as I was typing. But there's something else too, America has freedoms
    other rich nations don't have - there must be many technical Chinese Americans caught up in
    that quandary: go home to more familiar culture and good/better wages, or stay and enjoy the
    freedoms.
     
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    But why the different norms Joe? Are the Chinese people more prone to accepting genocide? Is it really something in their "culture" that is facilitating these atrocities?

    Or could it be that communist governments are unaccountable to meaningful opposition; therefore, they can do unpopular things like genocide, or risky things, like develop flu like viruses in biolabs without proper safety measures, without worry of public relations consequences.

    Could it be that maybe history got it right, and the fear of communist governments was not overblown, and current Ivy League profs teaching otherwise should have all been fired when the Wuhan virus left China?
     
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    Nothing unexpected here

    move along



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    Moi :oldman:
     
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    i think you overestimate the "freedom" part, most ppl want better lives for them self and their kids. also in china as long as they dont challenge the government, most are satisfy living in china provide they have skills to make good living there. even many ex-pat from west are living in china now. most ppl immigrant to US/EU due to high living standard. india or other democratic developing nation never have so many immigrants like US/EU.
     
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    And in the marriage stakes you don't hear of many "Japanese brides."
    Once nations like Thailand and the Philippines reach Western standards
    of living we won't hear from them either. Maybe one day it will be 'American
    brides' on-line. Hope not.
    :)
     

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