You folks seeking 'unity'...

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you mean?

    I often find myself in somewhat of a disconnect from the mainstream, with an inability to divine the common understanding of commonly used but technically subjective words. In the context of this forum, as far as I can tell, 'unity' means we should all be voting for the policies that the user of the word prefers. ...a totally unrealistic expectation if there ever was one. So, hopefully I'm misunderstanding, and thus this query for clarification.

    What do you mean by 'unity'?
     
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    Esdraelon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone else already nailed this definition - UNITY=SUBMISSION. It's akin to insanity that so many actually believe that the other HALF of the nation is just going to ignore these glaring double standards in the application of our laws. I guess when you have full control of media and they're pushing the propaganda of the Left, they just assume they'll be able to crush dissent in one way or another. It's just idiocy to believe that.
     
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    Unity = submit to the globalist cabal
     
  4. VotreAltesse

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    "E pluribus unum", "of many, we are one", unity seemed to be a worry of founding fathers, expressing that despite their differences, the USA are one. Unity, yes, but on what ground ? The submission to an unique ideology ? An unique religion ?

    Unity may be called by some pyromaniac firemen, who exacerbated tensions month ago, and now want to calm down things, before it explode back to their own faces.

    Conflict, in a free society, is important for unity, when this conflict is by word, and remain respectfull. In that perspective, people who prevent respectfull, argumented dissenssion by being insulting, or censors that would like to silence their adversaries in the name of a greater morale either be it a "divine" one or a for "progress".

    It would be childish to pretend that it have been one sided :
    Roughly, we could blame first anyone who systematically insulted their adversaries of "communism", "fascism", "racism" and so on. I'm neither a supporter of Trump, neither I am an ultra anti-Trump, but on the issue of respectfull speech, yes he was a complete, utter disaster. During the last election, we can't really pretend that any candidates have been a model of respectfull speech.

    Destroying is harder than to build and respect, unity is something build. Notre Dame needed hundred of years to be build, yet in a few hours it was almost destroyed to the ground, if there wasn't courageous firemen. The climate of dissenssion today won't disappear in a magical way, even less without continuous mutual efforts. But on what basis ? On what social contract ? What's the "new deal" the vast majority would be able to agree on ?
     
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    Of course, there will always be political divisions and a variety of opinions. "Unity" doesn't mean that those differences in opinion will magically disappear.

    What "unity" means to me is that people will start looking at the common goals again, instead of fighting each other, almost to the death. It means that people can respect the political opposition as fellow Americans, who want America to prosper, and that the countrymen with opposing views are not the mortal enemy (or devil) that has to be destroyed at ANY cost. After all, we have more in common than what sets us apart.
     
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    Levin says unity means conformity and Gingrich says it means surrender. All pretty much on the money.
     
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    Unity could start with an objective press just giving us the news and stop their divisive narrative.
     
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    This
     
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    Good point. If I had to make a bet I'd say you're a FOX man. :)
     
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    Fox has become another main stream statist media outlet that pretends to lean right. I remember when each news channel was different
     
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    You keep confusing news reports with 24 hour entertainment channels like Fox and CNN and you're never going
    to be informed or happy or "unified".
     
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    Your problem is that you think that Fox and CNN et al are "news" channels. They are entertainment and OP ED channels.
     
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    I see you left NBC and CBS out, what makes them any better.. I personally "If I watch news" like Newsy little old fashion platforms that just cover news and leave all the opinion out of it....
     
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    Local news channels are far more likely to be actual news channels - like the local NBC, CBS types. Any of the 24 hr. channels
    need to fill too much time to be anything other than entertainment channels.
     
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    Ya Newsy is like that but more world news focused too.. But I agree local is better..
     
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    The only news I watch on TV are the local channels for the very reason they don't have pundit shows pushing narratives. The local channels have local news in addition to world news. Then at 6:30 there are the World News shows that focus on reporting world news without pushing their opinions. As soon as I hear opinions on any news item that tells me an agenda is being pushed, which I don't care for.
     
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    I would settle for politicians willing to compromise and try to solve some problems instead of opposing everything the other party suggests because they need the other side to fail. No more all or nothing.
     
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    They once were news channels but I agree. they are nothing but entertainment now.
     
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    I believe that is the unity Biden was referring to.
     
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    How do you expect unity without an apology?
     
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    Unity should be a meeting of common ground.

    Unfortunately, tribalism will not allow that...
     
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    The thing is, Biden has NOT said anything unifying. He has BLASTED and LIED about Trump and his policies many times since he took office. He used EOs to stop anything Trump did even when there was absolutely NOTHING to oppose. He didn’t call out his fellow Democrats when some of them said there are ENEMIES among us. He didn’t clarify that those at the capital were a tiny fraction of people. NOPE!! He made it seem like it was ALL of them that attacked the capital. And ANYONE who even supported the protest was equally guilty as those who stormed the building. NO ONE supported the attack. NO ONE!!! It is NOT unity to label EVERYONE for the actions of the few.
     
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    Best post in this thread by far. The American people are never going to unify under a socialist led un-American dem party. NEVER!
     
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    Trump isn't a legislator or in govt at all. Unity in govt matters for those who will be working together for this country.
     
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    Best post of the thread? The post you replied to exemplifies why we are in the sorry state we are in today, with people "fighting" against each other instead of working on common ground. As I said in my above post, compromise has become a dirty word. Newsflash: You'll NEVER get everything you want. My way or the highway is not unity, it usually leads to self-radicalization.
     

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